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From: "Carol" <cshenk@virginia-beach.com>
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Subject: Re: It's Early, But Will You Have for Dinner Tonight, Thursday, 11/14/2024?
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 22:28:54 -0000 (UTC)
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D wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
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> > D wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
> > > 
> > > > D wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > (On Solar)
> > > > 
> > > > > This is the truth! And you'd support american industry as well
> > > > > instead of chinese solar manufacturers.
> > > > 
> > > > You might want to look into it,  USA/Canada makes our own solar
> > > > panels that rate longer, with higher hail and wind protection
> > > > than that weak Chinese stuff.  They also pull more power per
> > > > panel.
> > > > 
> > > > That's what we got here.Just got one of my rare bills, 31$ for
> > > > last month.  I went solar just before I retired in 2022.  I
> > > > also got 39$ in SRECs back so I'm ahead.  I end up paying for
> > > > 2% of my electricity over a year when SRECs are deducted. (I
> > > > produce at 92.5% averaged since install in 2022.  I have some
> > > > spots sloped for it or I'd be producing excess).
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know really what SRECs are but it's some sort credit and
> > > > areas vary on how much they are going for.  As far as I know,
> > > > I'm the only RFC regular with solar.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > This is very interesting. How much is the price difference and are
> > > they manufactured in the US? If the price is lower, I think europe
> > > will gladly buy the majority of the production in order to
> > > decrease reliance on the hostile state of china.
> > 
> > It was about 10% more then but they rated 10 more years longevity.
> > ALL parts are either USA or Canada produced.  It's a mixed product
> > and a good one.  I don't have a list of which parts are which
> > country.
> > 
> > (Typo above, I have some spots NOT sloped for it..)  IE:  I'm 4
> > panels short of 100% plus some for a level 2 EV charger.
> 
> Very interesting! If I ever manage to find the right plot for my
> fortress of solitude, I'll definitely try and remember this, over
> crappy chinese solar panels!
> 
> I also saw somewhere, small 2-3 meter high, vertical wind turbines, I
> wonder if those are good enough to act as a nice complement in the
> winter when solar drops to about 10% of its maximum power?
> 
> But if neither works out, there's always the option of a wood/pellets
> burner, although not as "techy" and elegant as a solar+wind solution.


Well it's not that extreme of a shift here.  To me, you practically
seem to live in the Arctic (I know that's an exaguration);.  Here
lowest sun is when it's just comming up at 7am and down by 5pm.

The tech is rapidly evolving and they are working on roof shingle
setups that will be much cheaper they say, and can be repaired by
anyone able to climb a ladder.  Just give it time.

On mini-wind types, yes they exist as well as ground mounted solar.  I
have no direct experience with those.

I've now gotten 2 batteries I charge from solar.  I plan to add more.
I also plan an oxygen concentrator with batteries (for Don, just in
case).

This goes along with my own style of having backup plans for outages.
It's just going in stages.  The big stage is a Kohlar (sp?) generator
in the back of the house that runs off natural gas and will cover
essential needs.  About 4K will cover us with a portable AC unit and
critical outlets for things.