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From: Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Only Apple requires a "valid" address just to download software
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 08:59:56 -0500
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On 11/24/2024 6:51 PM, Andrew wrote:
> In keeping with the proof that of all common consumer operating systems,
> only Apple murders privacy, today I tried to add an "App Store" account to
> the iPad I had set up recently to have an Apple ID (which killed privacy).
>   *Piece of shit iOS has absolutely zero privacy for God's sake*
>   <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=17771&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#17771>
> 
> Now... Apple murders privacy again by requiring 2FA to prove I'm me.
> 
> So I give away my identity (again!) to Apple with a phone number that is
> very personal and very validly only mine - and that satisfies Apple's
> hunger to know everything there is to know about you that it can get.
> 
> Sigh... but it gets worse...
> 
> When I try to log into the App Store, I'm *required* to give Apple an
> address which I did NOT have to give Apple to create the Apple ID.
> 
> Huh?
> 
> Why can't stupid Apple keep their own identifications in the same place?
> 
> But wait... there's more.
> Now for this *second* ID on the iPad, I have to give Apple *more* private
> information. It's not enough that they already know who I am.
> 
> Now they want to know *where I live*.
> WTF.
> 
> Bastards.
> 
> But wait... you'd think the address can be completely bogus, right?
> 
> Nope...
> 
> It has to be a "valid" address.
> Just to create an account on Apple's mainframe servers to get apps.
> 
> How do I know that?
> 
> Because I type a bogus address (made up so I can't remember it now), and it
> fails, but it doesn't tell you why other than it must be a "valid" address.
> 
> WTF?
> 
> Why is it that only Apple murders privacy just so you can get apps for iOS?
> 
> Anyway, I come up with the idea of picking an address off the Internet
> using the "Random Address in California Generator" which gives me a "valid"
> address so Apple's mainframe servers are happy with the App Store account.
>   <https://codebeautify.org/random-address-in-california>
> 
> And then... only then... after handing Apple my identity ...
> 
> That works. I get the app.
> 
> But why did I have to do those machinations?
> Why does only Apple murder privacy?
> 
> No other common OS system vendor requires you to give up your privacy
> just to get apps off the app store so that the device can do stuff.
> 
> Just Apple.
> 
> That's a fact.

That is not true. Google Services also requires a valid mobile number 
for 2FA.