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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Only Apple requires a "valid" address just to download software off the App Store Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 08:59:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 68 Message-ID: <vi1vss$2psfq$2@dont-email.me> References: <vi0e63$nch$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:59:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1ba486302d77989fea3a1bdb00a8223e"; logging-data="2945530"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19O+FzgexQ8LImEK4kJlt0hCf1qNaPfuZ8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4dQcIWXLkHF/he9ip3MylopFw44= In-Reply-To: <vi0e63$nch$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3631 On 11/24/2024 6:51 PM, Andrew wrote: > In keeping with the proof that of all common consumer operating systems, > only Apple murders privacy, today I tried to add an "App Store" account to > the iPad I had set up recently to have an Apple ID (which killed privacy). > *Piece of shit iOS has absolutely zero privacy for God's sake* > <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=17771&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#17771> > > Now... Apple murders privacy again by requiring 2FA to prove I'm me. > > So I give away my identity (again!) to Apple with a phone number that is > very personal and very validly only mine - and that satisfies Apple's > hunger to know everything there is to know about you that it can get. > > Sigh... but it gets worse... > > When I try to log into the App Store, I'm *required* to give Apple an > address which I did NOT have to give Apple to create the Apple ID. > > Huh? > > Why can't stupid Apple keep their own identifications in the same place? > > But wait... there's more. > Now for this *second* ID on the iPad, I have to give Apple *more* private > information. It's not enough that they already know who I am. > > Now they want to know *where I live*. > WTF. > > Bastards. > > But wait... you'd think the address can be completely bogus, right? > > Nope... > > It has to be a "valid" address. > Just to create an account on Apple's mainframe servers to get apps. > > How do I know that? > > Because I type a bogus address (made up so I can't remember it now), and it > fails, but it doesn't tell you why other than it must be a "valid" address. > > WTF? > > Why is it that only Apple murders privacy just so you can get apps for iOS? > > Anyway, I come up with the idea of picking an address off the Internet > using the "Random Address in California Generator" which gives me a "valid" > address so Apple's mainframe servers are happy with the App Store account. > <https://codebeautify.org/random-address-in-california> > > And then... only then... after handing Apple my identity ... > > That works. I get the app. > > But why did I have to do those machinations? > Why does only Apple murder privacy? > > No other common OS system vendor requires you to give up your privacy > just to get apps off the app store so that the device can do stuff. > > Just Apple. > > That's a fact. That is not true. Google Services also requires a valid mobile number for 2FA.