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From: Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Any chance this has a fuse which has failed.
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 08:17:17 -0800
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On 11/25/2024 3:15 AM, Orca Winfrey wrote:
> Bob F wrote:
>> On 11/24/2024 8:29 AM, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:58:11 -0500, Clare Snyder
>>> <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:31:38 -0500, Retirednoguilt
>>>> <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/22/2024 8:57 PM, micky wrote:
>>>>>> My Philips DVDR3575H just stopped working.  It's a DVDR with an 
>>>>>> over the
>>>>>> air tuner and a HDD.  I figured the HDD would fail and soon after I
>>>>>> bought it I found on a video forum instructions for installing a new
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But instead, the whole thing went dead. Worked yesterday and two or 3
>>>>>> short power failures today. Now nothing displays. I had found the DVD
>>>>>> tray open (because I run it from another roomy and don't know when I
>>>>>> press the wrong button) but it went in fine when I pushed it. 
>>>>>> Doesn't it
>>>>>> have to be working a little for tray to go in?  Maybe it's the 
>>>>>> display
>>>>>> that has broken?   I checked the outlet and a lamp plugged into he 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> place works fine.   The owners manual says nothing about a fuse.  Any
>>>>>> chance ther is one anyhow, and somehow the power failure blew it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's all wired in and hard to disconnect, especially the little 
>>>>>> red bug
>>>>>> that's stuck to the IR input. And if there is no chance of fixing 
>>>>>> this,
>>>>>> I'll just buy something else and tranfeer the wires, instead of
>>>>>> disconnecting them and confusing myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is 15 years old and I recorded 2 or 3  hours of video a day 
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> day for most of its life, then played the 2 or 3 hours, plus I 
>>>>>> left it
>>>>>> on when watching tv live, and often when I was't even using it.  
>>>>>> You can
>>>>>> see why I thought the HDD would fail.  Yet I don't think that 
>>>>>> could be
>>>>>> the problem today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was able to find and download the service manual for this item at:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://elektrotanya.com/philips_dvdr3570h_dvdr3590h_ver.1.4.pdf/download.html#dl
>>>
>>> Thanks.  Very helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your browser/pdf reader of choice may be able to translate the text 
>>>>> into
>>>>> English.
>>>
>>> The Japanese part?  I don't think so. But almost all is in Engish.
>>> That's just the guy who sent it in wanting credit for himself and maybe
>>> his company.
>>>
>>>> The schematics and block diagrams are located fair far down in
>>>>> the manual.  It appears that there are separate analog and digital 
>>>>> power
>>>>> supplies.  That might explain why the tray still opens/closes (analog
>>>>> power supply working) but nothing else (they probably are powered 
>>>>> by the
>>>>> digital power supply).  I didn't see any fuses but the circuity is
>>>>> extensive, lots of pin connectors separating the connections, and I 
>>>>> may
>>>>> have missed something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your decision of course how much it's worth in time, effort and $$ to
>>>>> disconnect the device, open the case, and look for a fuse.  This 
>>>>> appears
>>>
>>> It's worth endless effort, assuming I have some chance of success.
>>>
>>>>> to be a very complicated conglomeration of multiple circuit boards 
>>>>> using
>>>>> many ICs etc.  Well beyond my experience and knowledge to suggest
>>>>> anything additional. Personally, it sounds like an appropriate 
>>>>> activity
>>>>> for a fully retired person.  Nothing to lose.  You can't break it!  
>>>>> It's
>>>>> already not functioning.  You can prossibly find a replacement on 
>>>>> ebay.
>>>
>>> A few years after I got this, I looked for another because I knew this
>>> would fail someday, and there were only 1 or 2 alternatives DVDR's with
>>> Hardrive, and one was $600 and even it had some4thing I didn't like.
>>>
>>> This week, when I first looked on ebay, before posting here, I found
>>> they were no selling for 30 to 70 dollars, on ebay. Whoopee.  But one of
>>> he ebay models I found on Amazon complete with a video review in which
>>> he pointed out that one could not play one recording while watching a
>>> different recording. That's pretty important.  At least I do it all the
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Going back to ebay, this time I searched on Philips and found a whole
>>> bunch of things I hadn't found before, including 9, count 'em, 9
>>> versions of just what I have now, ranging from a real auction that has
>>> now 5 more days to run but started at $15.  Seveal are listed as Tested,
>>> but only 4 of the 9 have remotes, and the box itself only has 5 buttons.
>>> There is not much one can do, or test, without the remote.  But even the
>>> ones that have remotes, am I to think they tested everything?  maybe
>>> must that it turned on and the screen said Playing and Record (two of
>>> the 5 buttons) and the DVD drawer opend (one more of the 5 buttons.  A
>>> fourth is Power and the fifst is Stop.)  Did they even connect a TV to
>>> see if something was coming out the other end?   They all promise in the
>>> standards for Used that it works completely, but they can't even change
>>> channels without the remote.  So they assume it works but I'll have to
>>> ship it back if it doesn't.
>>>>
>>
>> I record everything I watch on TV using a tuner card in my desktop PC 
>> or network attached tuner boxes (HDHOMERUN), and appropriate software 
>> (SAGETV), and outputting from my PC video card to the hdmi input on 
>> the TV or through a FireTV box. If the TV is off, the PC scheduler 
>> turns it on for scheduled shows.
> 
> I've got a pair of FLEX 4K receivers that pick up 15 ATSC3 channels but 
> 7 of those are DRM protected so no longer usable.
> Makes me wonder how long before broadcasters shut off ATSC1, effectively 
> killing the DVR.

Who do you have to "subscribe" to to get them?

Or, does this just block off recording?