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Subject: Re: Only Apple requires a "valid" address just to download software
 off the App Store
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:42:55 -0800
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On 2024-11-25 14:34, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:28:01 -0500, Tom Elam wrote:
> 
>> On 11/24/2024 6:51 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>> In keeping with the proof that of all common consumer operating systems,
>>> only Apple murders privacy, today I tried to add an "App Store" account to
>>> the iPad I had set up recently to have an Apple ID (which killed privacy).
>>>    *Piece of shit iOS has absolutely zero privacy for God's sake*
>>>    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=17771&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#17771>
>>>
>>> Now... Apple murders privacy again by requiring 2FA to prove I'm me.
>>>
>>> So I give away my identity (again!) to Apple with a phone number that is
>>> very personal and very validly only mine - and that satisfies Apple's
>>> hunger to know everything there is to know about you that it can get.
>>>
>>> Sigh... but it gets worse...
>>>
>>> When I try to log into the App Store, I'm *required* to give Apple an
>>> address which I did NOT have to give Apple to create the Apple ID.
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>> Why can't stupid Apple keep their own identifications in the same place?
>>>
>>> But wait... there's more.
>>> Now for this *second* ID on the iPad, I have to give Apple *more* private
>>> information. It's not enough that they already know who I am.
>>>
>>> Now they want to know *where I live*.
>>> WTF.
>>>
>>> Bastards.
>>>
>>> But wait... you'd think the address can be completely bogus, right?
>>>
>>> Nope...
>>>
>>> It has to be a "valid" address.
>>> Just to create an account on Apple's mainframe servers to get apps.
>>>
>>> How do I know that?
>>>
>>> Because I type a bogus address (made up so I can't remember it now), and it
>>> fails, but it doesn't tell you why other than it must be a "valid" address.
>>>
>>> WTF?
>>>
>>> Why is it that only Apple murders privacy just so you can get apps for iOS?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I come up with the idea of picking an address off the Internet
>>> using the "Random Address in California Generator" which gives me a "valid"
>>> address so Apple's mainframe servers are happy with the App Store account.
>>>    <https://codebeautify.org/random-address-in-california>
>>>
>>> And then... only then... after handing Apple my identity ...
>>>
>>> That works. I get the app.
>>>
>>> But why did I have to do those machinations?
>>> Why does only Apple murder privacy?
>>>
>>> No other common OS system vendor requires you to give up your privacy
>>> just to get apps off the app store so that the device can do stuff.
>>>
>>> Just Apple.
>>>
>>> That's a fact.
>>
>> Amazon requires a valid address to deliver :)
> 
> Amazon doesn't deliver for free so Amazon knows your credit card.
> Your credit card requires your valid address as does the delivery.
> 
> Apple gives you apps for free so Apple doesn't need your credit card.

And you don't need to give it.

> 
> Amazon needs your valid address to deliver the product but only Apple
> requires a valid address just to deliver to you an app which is free.
> 
> Microsoft & Google don't require a valid address just to get free apps.

An Apple Account doesn't require you give a valid address.