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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:49:11 -0800
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On 2024-11-27 12:44, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-27 12:12, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/27/24 2:29 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-27 11:13, Joel wrote:
>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you don't buy an SSD just to have one on a shelf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, because Apple requires these payments, you rationalize
>>>>>> that you didn't really need so much empty space, anyway.  Congrats.
>>>>>> Meanwhile, I already had that much empty space, going back years.  Is
>>>>>> it superfluous?  Maybe.  But then again, it's elite.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, that's not what I said or meant at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> You buy a computer SYSTEM.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's value to the end user is what the whole SYSTEM can do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does Apple charge a premium for expanding the storage? Absolutely.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it worth it in order to get a personal computer system that works as
>>>>> well as a Mac does? Absolutely.
>>>>>
>>>>> And having empty space isn't "elite".
>>>>
>>>> Particularly since having the storage be internal is primarily only a
>>>> concern today for people who need the mobility of a laptop.
>>>
>>> Utter nonsense, that's even worse rationalization than Alan's.
>>
>> Why? Why is it nonsense?
> 
> 
> Because it's comparing fundamentally different things.  I could add
> another SSD, without even removing my first one.  Whereas with Apple,
> I have to decide up front exactly what the internal storage will
> always be.  It's pathetic.

No. It's a business decision Apple has made and it clearly works well 
enough for many consumers.

> 
> 
>>>> Everyone else who's on a desktop can readily buy an external SSD,
>>>> including the URL link that Joel posted earlier today...
>>>>
>>>> "WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe Internal Gaming SSD Solid State Drive - Gen4
>>>> PCIe, M.2 2280, Up to 7,300 MB/s - WDS100T2X0E ... $79.99"
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-1tb-black-sn850x-nvme/p/N82E16820250243>
>>>>
>>>> and if it doesn't include an enclosure, add one:
>>>>
>>>> "ORICO Aluminum M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, Tool-Free 10Gbps USB C Adapter,
>>>> USB 3.2 M.2 NVMe Reader, External SSD Case Thunderbolt 3 Compatible,
>>>> Supports 4TB 2230/2242/2260/2280 PCIe M-Key SSDs-PWM2-BK ... $11.69"
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.newegg.com/p/0VN-0003-002G7>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or of course, check to see if another model which comes with one is cheaper:
>>>>
>>>> "SAMSUNG T7 Portable SSD 1TB - Up to 1050 MB/s - USB 3.2 Gen 2 External
>>>> Solid State Drive, Gray (MU-PC1T0T/AM) ... $89.99"
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.newegg.com/samsung-t7-1tb-usb-3-2-gen-2/p/N82E16820147767>
>>>
>>> USB?  Come on.  You're just lapping up Apple's spoiled milk.
>> What's wrong with USB 3.2 at 1050MB/s for a data storage drive...
>>
>> ...I mean apart from "bragging rights" about how your system is "elite"?
> 
> 
> You can make excuses, rationalize, but Apple is just crapware, is the
> truth.  They take you for a sucker.
My systems just work.

:-)