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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:52:04 -0800
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On 2024-11-27 12:52, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> You buy a computer SYSTEM.
>>>> 
>>>> It's value to the end user is what the whole SYSTEM can do.
>>>> 
>>>> Does Apple charge a premium for expanding the storage?
>>>> Absolutely.
>>>> 
>>>> Is it worth it in order to get a personal computer system that
>>>> works as well as a Mac does? Absolutely.
>>> 
>>> How is that not proving my point, that you're rationalizing?
>> 
>> Because I'm using a complete system that works well for me.
>> 
>> When I bought my current machine, I considered my space
>> requirements and got the 1TB option, and that cost me an
>> additional $250.
>> 
>> I didn't do it for "bragging rights" or to declare my system to be
>> "elite".
>> 
>> I did it because I USE the space.
>> 
>> And I paid Apple's premium because life experience (more than 30
>> years using, selling, and supporting both Macs and Windows
>> personal computers) has shown me the value of a system that works
>> as well as a Mac does.
>> 
>> My entire computer is the tool I purchased, and I looked at the
>> entire price of the tool I needed and the value of that tool to me
>> and I paid it. All in, the price as $2,200
>> 
>> I fully expect this tool to serve me well for the next 5-7 years,
>> so the monthly cost is no more than $36.67.
> 
> 
> I am certain I could do better buying as parts.

Could you, though?

Could you do so if you assigned a value to the time you'd spend?

And by how much?

> 
> 
>>>> And having empty space isn't "elite".
>>> 
>>> And yet Apple charges such a premium for it, that you would
>>> think it was ...
>> Nope. Rational people don't think that paying for something
>> they're not using is in any way, shape or form "elite"?
>> 
>> There's a saying that you should learn:
>> 
>> 'There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a 
>> little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who
>> consider price only are this man's lawful prey.'
> 
> 
> And yet my parts are all good stuff.  Apple expects you to trust
> that they'd only provide something as good, but you don't really
> know.
You'll pardon me if I don't take your word for it.

Your lack of judgment in this field has already been amply demonstrated.