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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: electrical deaths Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 23:52:03 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <viarv9$nqfa$1@dont-email.me> References: <iv1dkj1d8qa5cvm4r5b7mbehcot0lnd057@4ax.com> <MPG.41b100ba63925d6598a00c@news.eternal-september.org> <vi87uf$6se7$1@dont-email.me> <viafhu$lp3o$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 23:48:09 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8fc452885ef510768c9f77f663059fd7"; logging-data="780778"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/oNI+etN9elnm+qjuTE9bA" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:6ZwLlWpN18qnUZBMq1E4xnLps6g= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <viafhu$lp3o$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3028 On 11/28/24 20:16, Lasse Langwadt wrote: > On 11/27/24 23:54, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund wrote: >> On 27-11-2024 16:11, Ralph Mowery wrote: >>> In article <iv1dkj1d8qa5cvm4r5b7mbehcot0lnd057@4ax.com>, JL@gct.com >>> says... >>>> >>>> https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Age-adjusted-mortality-rates-from-electrical-injuries-per-1-million-population-European_fig1_221916189 >>>> >>>> The US (0.63 PPM) is probably low partly because we have mostly 120 >>>> volt gadgets. I usually wire boxes hot, and get tickled now and then, >>>> no big deal. >>>> >>>> Some countries are astounding. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> It is probably all the safety standards in this country. >>> >>> >>> When I first started in a plant about 40 years ago there was very little >>> safety precautions. In the last 20 or so years they got very strict >>> following new govenment regulations. >>> >>> The electrical code for homes has gotten onthe safety bandwagon. All >>> the GFCI and arc flash circuits probably help. >> >> On the other hand, you have USB chargers and other power supplies from >> China with poor to some having little barrier insulation. That being >> said, I have never hear about a fatality from that risk pool. >> >> Actually, the regulations for building electronic devices are quite >> strict. At the same time, we have cars passing each other with a >> differential speed of 200km/h within a couple of feet. Kills a lot of >> people, but the regulations are never changed (hard to modify existing >> infrastructure) > > traffic death and serious traffic injuries, is somewhere between half > and a third of what they were just 20 years ago > Not surprising. Much traffic these days is standing still or crawling along at walking speed. Jeroen Belleman