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On 11/28/2024 3:20 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:11:40 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> Over the past fours years, under Democrat Biden/Harris leadership, millions
>>>> of illegals traveled via Mexico to flood unchecked and unvetted into our
>>>> country over our southern border.
>>
>>>> With one phone call Trump just ended that.
>>
>>>> https://ibb.co/52PDpMs
>>
>>>> Not even in office yet and he's already making America great again.
>>
>>> It's crazy how quickly something can be worked out to address the issue.
>>
>> Oh, stop. Please. We don't know what Sheinbaum agreed to. And unless one
>> of these transit countries either starts massive deportation of foreign
>> nationals or allows permanent settlement, the migration crisis hasn't
>> ended. Trump's deluded.
> 
> It may not be that he's deluded as he will often outright lie. My
> guess is that is what he is doing here. Unless we hear that Mexico is
> actually spending money they don't have to put hundreds of LEOs on the
> border to stop the flow of people crossing the border illegally
> nothing is going to change.

Yeah, Sheinbaum's reaction to his post was that she never said what he 
said. They're going to continue doing what they have been for the last 
several months.

> 
>> Nothing short of shooting Maduro in the head to absolutely unequivocably
>> end Cuban-style Communism will stop mass emigration from Venezuala.
>> There is a legitimately-elected government to install.
> 
> What do you think the chances are of Mexico stopping people crossing
> from Venezuala into Mexico?
> 
>> Trump is going to have to go all Monroe Doctrine and show genuine
>> leadership in the Western Hemisphere.
> 
> Leadership? Trump? Um.. okay.
> 
>> It's possible to fix South America.
> 
> I'm sure you are right but it's not going to be the USA doing that.
> We've shown no ability to build stable governments.
> 
>> I don't know about Honduras and Nicaragua but what Guatemala
>> did -- simply telling police to arrest teenagers without regard to
>> having committed crimes and detaining them indefinitely -- is simply
>> changing the actor committing crimes to the state.
>>
>> If only Trump would use his influence and charisma for good. Fixing the
>> entire Western Hemisphere -- except Cuba and places still suffering from
>> French influence -- is entirely possible.
>>
>> Trump could achieve greatness here instead of allowing China to gain
>> more and more influence. But he won't because he's Trump.
>>
>>> It's almost like Democrats *wanted* a tsunami of millions of illegals in
>>> America.
>>
>> Uh, clearly not as polls consistently showed that Democratic politicians
>> weren't trusted and a great many voters who might have voted Democratic
>> in past elections voted for Trump.
> 
> The reports after the election were full of talk about Latinos who
> ended up voting for Trump. Plus none of the people who crossed into
> the country were going to be voting and who knows what their kids
> might end up supporting in 10-20 years. Assuming they do become legal
> citizens of the country AND bother to vote.
> 
>>> Oh, it also show's how full of shit everyone from FPP to Kammie herself was
>>> when they insisted the only way to fix the border problem was with that
>>> "bipartisan border bill" that would have enshrined into law 5000 illegal
>>> entries/day as the de facto acceptable standard we were just expected to
>>> live with.
>>
>>> My only gripe is that I didn't get one of those Mexican Cokes made with
>>> real sugar out of the deal.
>>
>> They sell them in supermarkets around here! One of the supermarkets I
>> shop at has plenty of Mexican immigrants, here legally and they all have
>> jobs. They don't buy Dwayne Andreas high fructose corn syrup shit.
> 
> Yeah, they have them at the local Publix grocery store. Not cheap and
> not worth it. Plus I've heard you have to be careful because some
> places in Mexico are using cane sugar while others are using high
> fructose.
>