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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:08:48 -0800
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On 2024-11-28 16:52, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> How can you pretend that a USB-connected
>>>>> external drive is the same thing as an internal storage drive?
>>>>
>>>> By considering the actual performance of a USB 3.2 storage device?
>>>>
>>>> You read exactly like the superficially "expert" 1337 Linux dweeb you are:
>>>>
>>>> "USB???? Uggh... ...USB sux, man!".
>>>
>>> It doesn't suck for an external drive, using an external drive sucks
>>> as a continuous solution.
>>
>> Why?
> 
> 
> If I want two drives, I want them both internal.  However, since I
> have no wish to dual-boot Winblows, I don't need a second drive.

1. That's not an answer. That's saying the same thing by different words.

2. Having two drives has nothing to do with whether or not you are 
dual-booting. I would have thought an "expert" would have understood that.

> 
> 
>>>>> I still have an old 1 TB external hard drive, I use for my backups.
>>>>> It's remarkably simple, just use a file browser to copy files, and use
>>>>> its extra space for temporary storage when doing a clean OS reinstall.
>>>>> Boom.
>>>>
>>>> So you have no actual backup solution at all beyond, "I'll copy the
>>>> files over manually"?
>>>
>>> Is there supposed to be a more straightforward way?
>>
>> Yes. Use proper backup software that keeps track of everything that
>> needs to be backed up, and does so on an automated schedule.
>>
>> Kind of like Time Machine does on a Mac.
>>
>> I meant, EXACTLY like Time Machine does on a Mac.
>>
>> :-)
> 
> 
> I would wager I could install something equivalent under Linux, but
> it's not a vital need.

It IS a vital need to anyone who is serious about his or her data.

> 
> 
>>>>> I'm not using any SATA device, not even a DVD drive.
>>>>
>>>> Because it's against your religion, or... ...what?
>>>
>>> Well, optical drives are basically unneeded, and SATA storage drives
>>> are outdated.  The NVMe is the only internal media, I install Win/Lin
>>> from USB media, and my external hard drive is for backups.
>>
>> That doesn't make SATA devices worse.
> 
> 
> NVMe is state-of-the-art.

Still not an answer.

> 
> 
>>>>> I'm reasonably sure that my SSD's speeds are comparable to Macs of its
>>>>> time.
>>>> Are you, though?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> It might not be precisely the same, but is it really something I'd
>>> notice?  When I initially installed Win10, it was effortless.  Doing
>>> cumulative updates is where it gets slow (a drawback of Winblows,
>>> unless that's gotten better in the last year).
>> And yet you won't use a SATA drive even if you wouldn't notice the
>> difference...
> 
> 
> Using SATA when NVMe is an option isn't elite enough, right.

It's seems you're looking for "bragging rights", not utility.
>