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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: electrical deaths Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 20:32:29 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <vibckl$u5qg$1@dont-email.me> References: <iv1dkj1d8qa5cvm4r5b7mbehcot0lnd057@4ax.com> <vi62rh$14fi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vi7k6j$37g9$6@dont-email.me> <vi99bt$f1r1$1@dont-email.me> <1r3qb00.1fgzoxb1tmjhzN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vi9mqg$hds0$1@dont-email.me> <ah8m1lxq3c.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vi9vb0$irso$1@dont-email.me> <via3im$1h7j$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <viaj7d$m7b3$2@dont-email.me> <viba89$tqd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 04:32:38 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f3bfbbb98b3e72f273e8af037c835f70"; logging-data="989008"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19q2Nl0kIwfrbdVipSAhUEx" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:zx0s80ZWF7jShu/au/l/HTRvUKo= In-Reply-To: <viba89$tqd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4273 On 11/28/2024 7:51 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >>> Chainable light strings are common in North America so there is usually a >>> socket on the other end to allow connection of another string of lights. I >>> don't remember seeing that in Europe. >> >> Yes, and often the plug has an in-built (replaceable) fuse. I think >> three strands (of C9's) are the limit (~5A?) -- likely a consequence >> of the flimsy wire interconnecting them. > > Yes I've had to replace the fuse a few times. > Parallel rather than serial topology is rocket science to some people. "Parallel" doesn't work when the spot to start the next string is far from where you started the previous. I help many of the (olde) neighbors decorate their homes for the holidays. PLANNING is the first step. I sure don't want to have to take down a string because it was too short or didn't have a means of daisy-chaining to the NEXT string, once I was 30 ft from the extension cord! I've made a point of photographing the final result and prompting them to LABEL the strings when I take them down -- "so it goes up that much quicker, next year!" >> When we string the citrus trees, we have to plan where the strands >> will ultimately go so we don't end up with all the lights on one >> side of the tree (adjacent to the power inlet) and have to run >> a separate extension cord to the far side of the tree. (better to >> use a string of lights to get power over there!) > > Ah yes the lights in the trees. > Then I'm asked to connect the power and I find a socket on the ground. We run an extension cord (heavy gauge, suitable for outdoor use) to each tree. Slap a cube tap on the end. Then, a short, three-outlet extension onto that. Plug the first string into this extension and start off (low) in one direction. A second strand in the opposite direction. And, a third strand "headed up for the top". Add another strand to the end of each and double-back towards the cube tap -- only higher on the tree. Finally, a third strand. Return to the first cube tap and feed another three-outlet extension to handle the floodlights under the tree. And, a final split to handle the fans. With a bit more forethought, I would have wired a switch in series with the outdoor outlets to make it easier to control the loads! :< I learned a lesson from the first generation plantings: plant DWARF varieties! Much easier to cover them and less need for all of these other protective measures! [SWMBO ate her last orange from last year's crop two weeks ago. Still have a few gallons of OJ in the freezer to last until harvest. This year's fruit will be edible in a few weeks -- though not harvested for a few more months (let them continue to get sweeter on the trees).]