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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Charles Carpenter Fries born (29/11/1887) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:12:46 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vic0il$113e0$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: r.clark@auckland.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:12:54 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="74a02db8fe70dc59f2521db862908198"; logging-data="1084864"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+5pTTMXeFmzWF78YiocTcyjtIAP08DlvE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:J5LpNaavP2tCt0Z7hofmNWNsv7M= X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.eternal-september.org:119 Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2444 Another linguist. Professor at the University of Michigan 1920-1958. He died in 1967, when I was just beginning linguistics. I heard of him, as a structuralist of an earlier generation (a contemporary of Bloomfield), but he didn't arouse much interest. His importance was greater in applied linguistics, as a founder of the Oral-Aural method of teaching foreign languages. (Through hearing this term I came to realize that for some people "oral" and "aural" are not homophones.) But he also wrote _The Structure of English_ (1952). Crystal quotes from his opening chapter: "With the recent development of mechanical devices for the easy recording of the speech of persons in all types of situations there seems to be little excuse for the use of linguistic material not taken from actual communicative practice when one attempts to deal with a living language. Even though the investigator is himself a native speaker of the language and a sophisticated and trained observer he cannot depend completely on himself as an informant and use introspection as his sole source of material." He goes on to envision what we would now call linguistic corpora. Little did he know that Noam Chomsky would spend years flatly denying what he said, and making self-as-informant the normal method for his followers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_Fries