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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 16:37:30 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vicn3r$14u7n$1@dont-email.me> References: <31419fde-62b3-46f3-89f6-a48f1fe82bc0@att.net> <vi4383$3csd4$2@dont-email.me> <vi4a6c$3dt4s$2@dont-email.me> <c5a03e73203e6409f6b50c25b84a22d8df0d210b@i2pn2.org> <vi4k5a$3fj1t$1@dont-email.me> <8b860c66587b6d5d18e565caddb42cc3d5bb813c@i2pn2.org> <vi4vg4$3hg8t$3@dont-email.me> <vi509b$3hqcp$1@dont-email.me> <vi56el$3is82$1@dont-email.me> <vi57p2$3j62u$1@dont-email.me> <vi6tu2$3v0dn$3@dont-email.me> <bedba0f79694c3adbbcb4eff22a28b9597ea1293@i2pn2.org> <vi7uam$5cmb$1@dont-email.me> <376546bee4809e20528e0e9481315611ec5c3848@i2pn2.org> <vi9n75$hepc$1@dont-email.me> <659cb7a16573c854e96c7a982fe8b15397fb1210@i2pn2.org> <vi9u2d$ig6a$1@dont-email.me> <566c43c9af9113a8654a25c54ff6d60fbe982784@i2pn2.org> <via4jv$jk72$1@dont-email.me> <b7f357ab699a666d92da2a36021d0c8948232b1f@i2pn2.org> <viaaga$jk72$5@dont-email.me> <621b95c8deb04df2cb53e3bfa9f3a60e4b84458c@i2pn2.org> <d0d39b61-0943-48ba-9971-9c43eebfc1b5@tha.de> <85e0893a25e83c8407149ef84012fdfa4c65aa05@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 16:37:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c5651d9578ee81bcf3a5eefb87391f7e"; logging-data="1210615"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ehdMQv8CHrS90jbueUPDaN0DoxajoWx4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:r12ZokMCwcQZqffYKWtsYRX19n8= In-Reply-To: <85e0893a25e83c8407149ef84012fdfa4c65aa05@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3200 On 29.11.2024 14:57, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/29/24 8:44 AM, WM wrote: >> On 29.11.2024 01:06, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 11/28/24 12:50 PM, WM wrote: >>>> If for all intervals 1, 2, 3, ..., n the covering is 1/10, then >>>> there are no natnumbers outside of all intervals and there are no hats >>>> outside of all intervals. >> >>> You are making the error of assuming that the infinite set is just >>> like a finite set that has part of it. >> >> No. Analysis concerns infinite sequences and sets. > > You are looking at FINITE sets, and then trying to extrapolate to an > infinte set, which doesn't work. Analysis is basic. > >>> >>> The problem is that the actual problem is defined on the INFINITE >>> set, and in that case, there ARE enough hats to cover. >> >> No. The limit of the sequence f(n) of relative coverings in (0, n] is >> 1/10, not 1. Therefore the relative covering 1 would contradict analysis. > > And 0^x is 0, and x^0 is 1, which shows that just because you have a > constant sequence, it limit is not necessarily the final value. The limit of the sequence 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, ... is 1/9. Regards, WM