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From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM>
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Subject: Re: Ian Levine's Doctor Who Group Poll on the Timeless Child...
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 17:12:34 +0000
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On 29/11/2024 12:39, The Last Doctor wrote:
> On 29/11/2024 00:44, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>> In article <viankq$mil7$6@dont-email.me>,
>> The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> On 28/11/2024 13:58, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <vi8df0$7rgb$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's no new Doctor Who being made. There hasn't been
>>>>>> since 2017. The Timeless Child monster killed the entire
>>>>>> franchise. If the BBC wants to start making money again then
>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster must be kept out of Doctor Who
>>>>>> and the series must be revived from where it ended in The
>>>>>> Doctor Falls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the fanbase wants the Timeless Child retconned!
>>>>
>>>> 512 people, the fanbase? !!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's typically the number of people survayed for an average 
>>> election opinion poll so it would be deemed representative of fandom 
>>> within a margin of error of about 3%.
>>
>> Thank you!
> 
> No, that's not the way polling works. This was a poll of about 6,100 people
> (the membership of Ian's closed group) - 90% of whom didn't see it, didn't
> care, or didn't want to engage with Dave (this was Dave's poll, not one he
> just came across). In a real poll, they would continue to poll others till
> they got enough answers.
> 
> Secondly, demographic selection matters. The Ian Levine group is a tiny set
> of enormously conservative old-school fans. 

Ian Levine's group is the bellwether of Doctor Who. It's the New 
Hampshire of Doctor Who fandom. It is already statistically balanced so 
whatever the majority of people say there is usually what the majority 
of fans agree with.

>It is bound to lean into haters
> of all modern Who quite strongly.
> 

Doctor Who ended in 2017.

> So, within this hidebound community, the real  result of this poll is
> No response. 5,600 (91.8%)
> Yes, it destroys Doctor Who. 311 (5.0%)
> No, it is now part of the lore. 129 (2.1%)
> I've never seen it, so I don't care. 22 (0.4%)
> Don't waste screen time. Just ignore it. 48 (0.7%)
> 
> It's a self selecting group of fellow travellers, and still only 3 in 5 of
> them agree with Dave.
> 

No one forced people to settle in New Hampshire.

> Run your poll in an open group, Dave, where younger fans might hang out. 
> And
> put more nuanced options in - it's not a yes/no kind of issue.
> 

There are no younger fans any more. Davies, Gatwa, Whittaker, and 
Chibnall told them all to go and fuck grass, and what decent parent 
would let their kids watch a degenerate show whose producers and writers 
want to use to sexually groom them.


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