Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:30:22 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 38
Message-ID: <vidf2k$1933l$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vicdtb$62j1$1@solani.org> <vici9s$13umg$1@dont-email.me>
 <vicmgh$j28b$1@solani.org> <vid5og$17b08$1@dont-email.me>
 <1r3svpl.148oh3818kksy4N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>
 <vidafk$18c6s$1@dont-email.me>
 <1r3t0yh.1en723hd56invN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:26:28 +0100 (CET)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d08feeff0bdc2cdd349bfd2a7fcf842d";
	logging-data="1346677"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hS4BGnDNpHSVwiChtzOIp"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/102.13.0
Cancel-Lock: sha1:zZwRq0XpqHsjQ5rjSrkwC6Q9nJk=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <1r3t0yh.1en723hd56invN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>
Bytes: 2812

On 11/29/24 23:03, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/29/24 21:04, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>> Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> It would be lovely to have 50kWTh or so of PU238 in the basement,
>>>> if it could be made cheaply enough. Power for a lifetime for the
>>>> whole house and then some.
>>>
>>> ...but the lifetime might not be very long if any got out.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If, if. Such arguments can be used to prove anything.
>>
>> I've got a diesel-powered car in the basement garage. Fully tanked,
>> it contains 60kg of fuel, good for 2.4GJ or so. Imagine the havoc
>> that could cause, if it got loose. For reference, a stick of dynamite
>> is about 1MJ.
> 
> I've seen what happened when builders accidentally set fire to a tank of
> diesel far bigger than that.  It burned slowly and steadily until it set
> fire to the roof of the house - then the house burned down.  Nobody was
> injured or killed, the mess was easily cleaned up and a new house built
> on the site.
> 
> It wasn't like the sudden release of energy you would get in a fuel-air
> explosion (quite difficult to initiate with diesel without specialist
> knowledge) and there wasn't a lot of residual toxic contamination.
> 
> 

OK. Now back to small 238Pu fuelled units. Why would you expect
anything to go wrong if the Pu was contained in a hermetic canister?

Jeroen Belleman