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On 11/29/2024 4:33 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, dsi1 wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 21:00:17 +0000, clams casino wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/29/2024 1:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 14:43:51 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Screenshot from Nextdoor.
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/a4vRogPDMwRapZsE8
>>>>> Nasty.
>>>>
>>>> I'd eat that. I'd make it swimming in a sweet tomato sauce though. It's
>>>> an old time dish that I haven't had in over a decade. I believe it's
>>>> about time.
>>>
>>> Ha!
>>>
>>> Merry Festivus to you too.
>>>
>>> T'was a noice thing to say.
>>
>> I wasn't trying to be nice. Cabbage rolls is something that I'd turn my
>> nose up when I was a kid but I'm an old guy now and I'm looking to
>> hobble down memory lane.
>>
>> As it goes, I have stuffed cabbage into a meatloaf. Cabbage rolls are a
>> much better idea.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/j2AeAb9GjJfEEpiX8
>>
> 
> For a swedish (ottoman) twist, you can invert it! Cabbage outside, meat 
> inside, and you have the classic Kåldolmar!
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_roll#Sweden_and_Finland
> 
> In 1709, after losing the Battle of Poltava, the wounded Charles XII of 
> Sweden and the remnants of his army escaped with their Cossack allies to 
> the Ottoman town of Bender, in present-day Moldavia, where they were 
> granted refuge by Sultan Ahmed III. Charles XII spent more than five 
> years in the Ottoman Empire, trying to convince the Sultan to help him 
> defeat the Russians. When he finally returned to Sweden in 1715, he was 
> followed by his Ottoman creditors and their cooks. The creditors 
> remained in Sweden at least until 1732; it is generally believed that 
> Ottoman style dolma were introduced into Swedish cooking during this period.


https://youtu.be/AqlbNjGCxUQ

The lingonberries are much more eye-appealing than the tomato souse.

https://swedishspoon.com/cabbage-rolls/

1 cabbage head—white or savoy
300 gr (10 oz) minced meat—preferably a mix of beef and pork
0,5 yellow onion
2,5 dl (1 cup) boiled rice
1,5 tsp salt
A good pinch of black pepper
Possibly 1 dl milk

Frying: butter or oil
Oven: water or stock
Sauce: concentrated meat stock, cream or milk, potato starch or corn 
starch, soy sauce, pepper
Serving: boiled potato, lingonberry jam, sauce