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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:57:30 -0500 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vier32$1madr$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vhvviq$2bjrd$1@dont-email.me> <68dc9b71-cf5d-4614-94e2-8a616e722a63@att.net> <vi03un$2cv9g$1@dont-email.me> <67d9867b-2614-4475-975c-938bafca5c00@att.net> <vi1vep$2pjuo$1@dont-email.me> <a4ab640d-e482-42b0-bfb8-f3690b935ce1@att.net> <vi41rg$3cj8q$1@dont-email.me> <d124760c-9ff9-479f-b687-482c108adf68@att.net> <vi56or$3j04f$1@dont-email.me> <4a810760-86a1-44bb-a191-28f70e0b361b@att.net> <vi6uc3$3v0dn$4@dont-email.me> <b2d7ee1f-33ab-44b6-ac90-558ac2f768a7@att.net> <vi7tnf$4oqa$1@dont-email.me> <23311c1a-1487-4ee4-a822-cd965bd024a0@att.net> <e9eb6455-ed0e-43f6-9a53-61aa3757d22d@tha.de> <71758f338eb239b7419418f49dfd8177c59d778b@i2pn2.org> <via83s$jk72$2@dont-email.me> <viag8h$lvep$1@dont-email.me> <viaj9q$l91n$1@dont-email.me> <vibvfo$10t7o$1@dont-email.me> <vic6m9$11mrq$4@dont-email.me> <vicbp2$1316h$1@dont-email.me> <vid4ts$1777k$2@dont-email.me> <vidcv3$18pdu$1@dont-email.me> <bdbc0e3d-1db2-4d6a-9f71-368d36d96b40@tha.de> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 11:57:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f1b240c9bdbb43526c715b31a625539"; logging-data="1780155"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+WWhpWy2Dw0YPAi7r5Z4BIgWPq01YOoMU=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:VcUsk3f8yhVKKpntemt/RsAWqes= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 3339 WM explained : > On 29.11.2024 22:50, FromTheRafters wrote: >> WM wrote on 11/29/2024 : > >>> The size of the intersection remains infinite as long as all endsegments >>> remain infinite (= as long as only infinite endsegments are considered). >> >> Endsegments are defined as infinite, > > Endsegments are defined as endsegments. They have been defined by myself many > years ago. As what is left after not considering a finite initial segment in your new set and considering only the tail of the sequence. Almost all elements are considered in the new set, which means all endsegments are infinite. >> all of them and each and every one of them. > > The set ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ..., n, n+1, ...} cannot be divided into two > consecutive infinite sets. As long as all endsegments are infinite, they > contain an infinite subset of ℕ. Therefore all indices are the finite > complement of ℕ. > >> The intersection is empty. > > Try to understand inclusion monotony. The sequence of endsegments decreases. In what manner are they decreasing? When you filter out the FISON, the rest, the tail, as a set, stays the same size of aleph_zero. > As long as it has not decreased below ℵo elements, the intersection has not > decreased below ℵo elements. It doesn't decrease in size at all.