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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 07:02:47 -0500
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On 11/29/24 5:29 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>> Joel is 'faster = better' until it comes to even faster systems
>> than what he owns ... at which point he flips his story to "overpriced".
> 
> 
> If you compare Apple hardware from the same time I bought my parts,
> it'd be about the same speeds.

I already have.  Sorry, but they're not.

I've already posted that your CPU is slower.  Ditto your SSD too.  RAM 
hasn't been fully checked out, but architecturally its not on-chip and 
out on a bus, so its invariably slower too.

For the first one, your motherboard allows one generation of CPU upgrade 
(from Gen 10 to 11); I'd figure that a Rocket Lake i7 such as the 11700 
would probably provide parity; looks like $218 at Amazon.

For the second one, this is why I noted about RAID0'ing your boot drive, 
as that's what it requires pre-PCI 5.  For you, it needs a second NVMe 
module; +$100.  But since your motherboard's open NVMe slot's PCI 3, not 
PCI 4, this strategy still won't provide adequate gain for parity vs the 
Studio.  But it would be roughly on par to the old 2020 Mini, so I'd 
give this one to you if you stop trying to compare to the Studio.

For the third one, you'd have to replace the motherboard for a faster 
RAM bus architecture, so no luck for you there for anything cheap.

TL;DR:  your options to get to parity with Apple hardware of that time 
means that you need to invest another $300 at today's prices, which put 
your total spent to date at ~$1450 (that we know of), and it looks like 
it would still fall short in the third hardware metric. But it is about 
as good as you can expect to do with the starting point your 'expert' 
chose for you.

-hh