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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 00:12:31 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <vif30a$1o4ji$1@dont-email.me> References: <vicdtb$62j1$1@solani.org> <vici9s$13umg$1@dont-email.me> <vicmgh$j28b$1@solani.org> <vidvrl$1d62d$1@dont-email.me> <viebre$7164$1@solani.org> <vienrs$1l2a8$1@dont-email.me> <viersn$79au$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 14:12:43 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="007a42c7cfde2971ea8ded0e42182d38"; logging-data="1839730"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+pWHp/GMilfawRPAPHLm8LCTXY/vNN8xc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:AAQeZduBcc+qzPVLpAq44r/unCw= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241130-2, 30/11/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <viersn$79au$1@solani.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4187 On 30/11/2024 10:11 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:02:25 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman > <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vienrs$1l2a8$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On 30/11/2024 5:37 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 14:12:42 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman >>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vidvrl$1d62d$1@dont-email.me>: >>>> On 30/11/2024 2:27 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 01:15:15 +1100) it happened Bill Slowman >>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vici9s$13umg$1@dont-email.me>: >>>>> >>>>>> On 30/11/2024 12:00 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>>> Being big isn't a virtue. Being big enough to do something useful is. >>> >>> I have posted many times: >>> 'If you cannot do it with those small particles on the table top, >>> then you cannot do it in a machine the size of the universe.' >> >> The fact that you post the same assertion repeatedly doesn't change the >> fact that it is wrong. > > No it is right ;-) > But think about it for a moment, anyways Farnsworth fusor shows it is true. > >> Stars are a lot smaller that the universe, and they manage to fuse >> nuclei on a very large scale. We would be here if they didn't. > > That has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with it, but you are too dumb to see the connection. >>> As to that Farnsworth Fusor, they complain the grid gets too hot >>> Nice, why not use thermocouples as grid, convert voltage up, >>> get break even or better? >> >> Thermocouples don't convert much of the heat energy available into heat. >> >>> I'd like to try, need a good lab and a good mechanical man, funding of course :-) >> >> Even a venture capitalist would have enough sense to avoid investing in you. > > That is why there still is no break even small fusion home power box. That's the explanation you like. There are others. >>> It is nice several projects are now looking for fusion, who knows? >>> Someone may hack it! >> >> Perhaps they will. > > Well, we have global warming in case humans fail. It's anthropogenic global warming. If we stop digging up fossil carbon and burning it, that extra warmth will go away eventually - but it is likely to take a few centuries. > Or we can dig deep enough into the ground for some heat. > But the question remains if you CAN make break even - get positive energy out > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion > endless babble about Albert E... > > But, my solar panels work great! But they rely on that big fusion reactor hanging there in the middle of the solar system. It's been there for about 4.5 billion years. Nobody realised that it was nuclear fusion reactor until quite recently, and the message still doesn't seem to have got through to you. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney