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From: Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Tom's demons are strong today! Re: RE: Re: Higher Education Is
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 22:31:30 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 13:27:58 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 18:30:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon Nov 4 00:06:49 2024 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>> On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:37:45 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >On Sun, 03 Nov 2024 19:12:04 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>>> ><jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 20:49:03 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>> >><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> >>>Tom's demons are strong and raging today! He's digging back months
>>> >>>to resurrect piles of dead threads so he can hurl more insults and
>>> >>>threats at those who have disrespected him.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Something very bad must have happened at his home. Something even
>>> >>>worse than botching a component installation yet again!
>>> >>
>>> >>It probably wasn't something "bad".  My guess(tm) is that he sorted
>>> >>his news readers list of articles by name, subject or sender,
>>> >>instead of by date.  It's easy to do by accident.  He might have
>>> >>also turned off threading, which arranges articles on a given
>>> >>"Subject" into a tree.  Without the tree structure, untangling
>>> >>articles into a logical sequence is rather difficult.  The resulting
>>> >>mess also explains why Tom is switching back and forth between two
>>> >>newsreaders (newshosting.com reader and Pan) which can be identified
>>> >>by his name vacillating between "cyclintom" and "Tom Kunich".  The
>>> >>newshosting.com newsreader:
>>> >><https://www.newshosting.com/newsreader/>
>>> >>is also responsible for the multiple "RE: Re: RE: Re:" mess in the
>>> >>subject line.  The Windoze version of Pan is also well behind the
>>> >>current Linux version, which means that Pan bugs tend to become
>>> >>permanent.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I really wonder about some of Tommy's posts. He goes on and on about
>>> >the period he seems to have spent at Guam in support of the B-52
>>> >missions over N Vietnam.
>>> >
>>> >Our base sent people temporary duty to Guam for 90 days and then they
>>> >returned and a different group was selected but for whatever reason
>>> >they weren't required to go.
>>> >
>>> >So out of a 4 year enlistment some of out guys served in Guam for 3
>>> >months but Tommy's post are all about his service in Guam as though
>>> >that was the only place he served during his entire 4 year A.F.
>>> >service... or maybe he was never in the A.F. at all?
>>> 
>>> I don't know anything about how the USAF operated at the time.
>>> Presumably, it was after he had some training, possibly at Lowry AFB
>>> from 1961 to 1962 as shown on his online resume at:
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/>
>>> 
>>> I didn't know what to think until Tom posted a highly unlikely fantasy
>>> about how the USAF sent avionics for him to fix from Vietnam to Tom in
>>> Oakland and then back to Vietnam.  Here's something on that amazing
>>> claim.  There's more but it's late and I'm burned out from relaxing
>>> too much today:
>>> 
>>> 07/04/2022
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/ZMiLSdqisfg/m/
LCkJkdp7BwAJ>
>>> "I worked for Bayaire Avionics for 4 years during the Vietnam Airlift
>>> as an avionics technician."
>>> 
>>> 07/04/2022
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/ZMiLSdqisfg/m/
p0Ugd2OEBwAJ>
>>> The Vietnam Airlift lasted a grand total of 2 days:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Frequent_Wind>
>>> I'm missing something here. The Vietnam Airlift was in Vietnam.
>>> Bayaire was in Oakland, CA. Did they fly the helicopters back and
>>> forth across the Pacific Ocean?
>>> 
>>> 07/05/2022
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/ZMiLSdqisfg/m/
Hvi1fsv9AQAJ>
>>> More on Bayaire Avionics.
> 
>>Jeff, you've never done anything. Please don't try to interpret things
>>you can't understand. The Vietnam airlift wasn't that ASS Bidens retreat
>>from Afghanistan and Iraq which took 2 days and left hundreds of
>>American behind.
>>
>>Vietnam was a planned retreat that Nixon planned and not someone like
>>you who doesn't know anything. All of the Aemrican troops where broght
>>back as a reduction of force until they were all back including all of
>>the civilian agencies and most of the South Vietnamese government who
>>would have been slaughtered.
>>
>>Why exactly do you lie about everything?
>>
>>Where did the Air Force send me anything to fix for them? Is your
>>growing dementia getting these sorts of answers?
> 
>>What dod Helicopters have to do with anything? All of the American
>>vehicles were shipped back to the US along with all of the people that
>>used or maintained them.
> 
> The airlift was bout moving people out of South Vietnam.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Frequent_Wind>
> "More than 7,000 people were evacuated by helicopter from various points
> in Saigon."
> 
> More of the same:
> <https://www.afhistory.af.mil/FAQs/Fact-Sheets/Article/458955/1975-
operation-babylift-and-frequent-wind/>
> 
>>US military was returned to the states via COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT you
>>stupid twit. And Bayaire Avionics maintained commercial aircraft.
>>
>>You entire life has been one of bad decision after bad decision. Do not
>>think for one second that that is normal.
> 
> Tom.  That's a really great example of you attempting to change the
> topic and divert attention away from your mistakes.  There is nothing in
> your reply that mentions your airlift, the duration of the airlift,
> or your 4 years working as an avionics technician.  In other words, a
> random assortment of unrelated "facts".
> 
> The US "military" did not ship avionics equipment 6,800 nautical miles
> from Vietnam to Oakland California and back again just so you, in a
> commercial avionics shop, could work on military avionics equipment.
> How would they get their training on military avionics?  What happened
> to working on Guam?
> 
> Photo of the Bayaire Avionics hangar circa 1972:
> <https://twinotterarchive.com/
154_N7663_unk_Oakland_Jul-1972_ejc_1024a.jpg>
> I'm trying to visualize cramming a B-52 into that hangar.
> 
> I would be interested in knowing which 4 years you worked for Bayaire as
> an avionics technician in Oakland.  Was that before, during or after you
> were in the USAF?

Tell everyone here what you personally knew about Vietnam that you didn't 
get from Wikipedia? I was there and you were hiding. You know nothing 
about it and pretend you do. You would make a toad vomit but they are 
smarter than you and know better than to pay the slightest attention to 
you.

You are the only person in the world that thinks that helicopters are 
transoceanic. You are the only one in the whole world that thinks that the 
American presence was 7,000 men in Saigon. Now I don't even believe you 
were smart enough to change ink jet printer cartridges. There is a reason 
you're on welfare.