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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: "superhumaness" excels "stackoverflow reputation" (Re: Im memoriam Doug Lenant (1950 - 2023)) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 11:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: <vihe8b$8q6n$1@solani.org> References: <v3ndsa$1782o$3@solani.org> <vig8ok$847h$4@solani.org> <vig9j8$l48h$3@solani.org> <vigmsl$l90i$3@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:36:59 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="288983"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:SAVWJSAkcyqkXxXBrcSBP7hyA20= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXcJZizxEG/59g4puLFaATPj5qjrYsFPraiDhTFAaW649LMxV2odKUdzocp3GdyVTnAzdVFVY= In-Reply-To: <vigmsl$l90i$3@solani.org> Bytes: 3640 Lines: 66 Hi, > Chatgpt is definitely unreliable. So is stackoverflow, you have no guarantee to get a realiable answer. Sometimes they have even biased nonsense, due to the over representation of certain communities on stackoverflow. But ChatGPT it is easier to re-iterate a problem and explore solutions, you don't get punished for sloppy questions, or changing topic midflight exploring corner digging deeper and deeper. ChatGPT certainly beats stackoverflow. Also stackoverflow is extremly hysteric about keeping every comment trail, and has a very slow garbage collection. I think stackoveflow automatically deletes a answer with negative votes after a while. On the other hand ChatGPT keeps a side bar with all the interactions, and you can delete an interaction any time you want to do so. There is no maniac idea to keep interactions. Stackoverflow possibly only keeps this interactions to be able to send people to their virtual prison. Basically they have become a perverted para-governemental institution that exercises violence. Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 11/30/24 6:11 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> Who do I use as a programming companion, stackoverflow >> or ChatGPT. I think ChatGPT is the clear winner > > > Neither. > > One is a joke, the other is not reliable. > > The few people in stackoverflow aren't there to tell you what the > solution to a particularly difficult, or novel, question is. They're > there to learn from _you_. In interacting with those Bozos you'll end up > struggling more and more to find the solution because of how idiotically > they behave and try to make you hopeless, and when you at last find the > solution all by yourself, they know you'll be tempted to show it to them > to prove your point. And that's how those suckers suck others. > > Even the now defective Google Search beats stackoverflow. You just have > to ignore its numerous references to stackoverflow. > > I mentioned "the few people in stackoverflow" because 99 percent of > people who are nominally members have left that site forever and out of > disgust. But SO keeps their membership alive to boast a large pool of > members. They're actually a bunch of 10 or 15 people, all of them > moderators, all of them cluless like any moderator actually is. > > Chatgpt is definitely unreliable. It can only throw you on some form of > starting point that makes some sense. You must do the rest, including > using other starting points.