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On 11/30/2024 4:30 PM, Carol wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> 
>> On 11/30/2024 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-30, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/29/2024 7:10 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>> On 11/29/2024 6:29 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 14:43:51 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Screenshot from Nextdoor.
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/a4vRogPDMwRapZsE8
>>>>>>> Nasty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are they nasty?  Is this something your wife
>>>>>> posted on Nextdoor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like cabbage rolls before being covered
>>>>>> and going into the oven.  These certainly don't
>>>>>> look like they're cooked and could stand a bit
>>>>>> more tomato sauce.
>>>>>
>>>>> Made with ground turkey.
>>>>
>>>> That would be slightly off-putting but not necessarily repulsive
>>>> if reasonably spiced.  I'd much prefer ground pork or even ground
>>>> beef (which is the way my mother made cabbage rolls).
>>>
>>> Or both pork and beef.
>>>
>> Yep!  And if I remember correctly, there was cooked rice added to the
>> cooked ground meat.
>>
>>> Joan's right, though.  More tomato sauce is needed, and not straight
>>> from the can.  It needs to be flavored with onion, garlic, salt, and
>>> pepper (at least).
>>>
>> I think my mother used canned tomato juice, not tomato sauce, to
>> simmer the cabbage rolls in.  I could be wrong.  I've got my mother's
>> recipe around here somewhere.  I know they were delicious but also a
>> lot of work to assemble.  And I think she simmered them in a large
>> pan on the stovetop, not baked in the oven.
>>
>> Jill
> 
> I had them at a small hospital potluck.  I worked there and on holiday
> meals when we had to work, we'd each bring a dish.  One of the fellow
> Nurse's aides brought them in a crockpot.  Rice combined with mild
> sausage meat in what I think was tomato juice then wrapped in soft
> steamed cabbage leaves.
> 
> They were very good.  Klumpkies or something like that?  I think she
> said a family recipe from Poland?  It's a memore from 1981 or so.

I'm sure they're fairly common in many parts of eastern Europe.  On 
Mom's recipe card she wrote "Hungarian Cabbage Rolls".  In the tiny 
village in Ohio where she grew up there were a number of families who 
had emigrated from Hungary.

Jill