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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:03:25 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vihqbd$2hnrp$1@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20241128153105.12904U@jgd.cix.co.uk> <20241128185548.000031c9@yahoo.com> <vidtpt$pon$1@gal.iecc.com> <2024Nov30.072829@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.123536@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vieuks$1n5ve$1@dont-email.me> <2024Nov30.175756@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130193206.00005c49@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.190858@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130202851.00005eca@yahoo.com> <2024Dec1.102826@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 15:03:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8f687224941a3437d15889ae5c7b6a60"; logging-data="2678649"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gUDDMHzYcQtWTvBw9LTI0x4gPwZyNNWQ=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kG99Nm1LNF20FCeQDEzhvWGdI3I= Bytes: 2084 Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> schrieb: > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes: >>On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:08:58 GMT >>anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote: >>> The widest arithmetic registers on AMD64 with AVX-512 are the ZMM >>> registers with 512 bits each. Sure, they are used for arithmetic on a >>> sequence of individually narrower data, but the registers have 512 >>> bits nonetheless. > ... >>8x64 is not the same as 512. > > Alternative facts? You can do eight 64-bit additions in AVX-512, but you cannot do a 512-bit addition. I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable definition for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the 16-bit 68000. It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but see de Castro's remark on the latter).