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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 17:53:19 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vii7qf$2m69k$1@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20241128153105.12904U@jgd.cix.co.uk> <20241128185548.000031c9@yahoo.com> <vidtpt$pon$1@gal.iecc.com> <2024Nov30.072829@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.123536@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vieuks$1n5ve$1@dont-email.me> <2024Nov30.175756@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130193206.00005c49@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.190858@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130202851.00005eca@yahoo.com> <2024Dec1.102826@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vihqbd$2hnrp$1@dont-email.me> <86jzcjo1uw.fsf@linuxsc.com> Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 18:53:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8f687224941a3437d15889ae5c7b6a60"; logging-data="2824500"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+2T/CgeydUEoNuOdb73xpaEjQ4+7xQ1g4=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CtxLNBGOeQIqt7YgjhCKghWlmO8= Bytes: 2563 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> schrieb: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes: > >> I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable definition >> for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the 16-bit 68000. >> It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but see de Castro's remark >> on the latter). > > To me, the phrase "n-bit architecture" should depend only on such > characteristics as are defined by the architecture, and not depend > on features of a particular implementation. The 360/30 has a 32-bit > (or is it 64-bit?) architecture, but only an 8-bit implementation. > > If I may add a personal note, it's disappointing that postings in a > group nominally devoted to computer architecture routinely ignore > the distinction between architecture and implementation. I'm well aware of that distinction. On the other hand, I have right before me a book with the title "MC68000 16-BIT MICROPROCESSOR User's manual third edition", ISBN 0-13-566695-3 (in paperback). One may argue that the authors of that book didn't know what they were writing about (since the 68000 has a 32-bit ISA), but I would try to define the terms in such a way that this is also included.