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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation? Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:08:23 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <vii8mn$2lh78$7@dont-email.me> References: <vhsc2o$1m1kj$1@dont-email.me> <1r3hwoc.n2yk211k1an2yN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhu82r$23cv5$1@dont-email.me> <1r3ix4d.1yypjir8hoviuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhv4k3$27kpu$2@dont-email.me> <vhvpl2$2ar1i$5@dont-email.me> <1r3jhb1.ks7h3uj4pk00N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vic61m$1a5ji$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> <1r3sfq2.1p1qdnk1d8sh9wN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <cvvo1lx4lu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <a8njkj9mmof0p9qutohm2pcqi9ta0af1ce@4ax.com> <vidgfp$1ovvm$1@paganini.bofh.team> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 19:08:23 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="464dfb1d130dd0b9b60f96112dd59238"; logging-data="2802920"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18GNqzlTYWryyNhqfoRsMP5kg3naQS5fPk=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IQbuAThVCfFFw97GC27Ys1isvFE= Bytes: 3325 On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:50:35 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: > john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 15:33:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>>On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was harmonised many years ago >>>>>>> at one thousand million so there's no confusion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you give a reference for that? I haven't found one. >>>>> >>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/ SN04440.pdf >>>> >>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation. The English Billion still >>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American >>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime >>>> Minister. >>>> >>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still >>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays. >>> >>>And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million >>>million. So one has to be careful when translating. >> >> What is a thousand million in Spanish? Does it have a name? You could >> call it a heap or a muddle or a toomany. Heap is best because H is >> available... M and T are already used. J and L are a excellent letters >> too... Jillion or Lump. > > Europe has miliard, that was already mentioned. I would use it when > meaning 1.0e9, no chance for confusion. For 1.0e12 I would use > "thousend of miliards", as that IMO is less confusing for Americans than > "billion". Big numbers came in handy in Germany in the 1920s when banknote values became very, very silly indeed: https://images.app.goo.gl/dgiwRx1H6Wm3TczTA