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From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com>
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Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation?
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:10:25 -0000 (UTC)
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 18:15:07 -0800, john larkin wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:50:35 -0000 (UTC), antispam@fricas.org (Waldek
> Hebisch) wrote:
> 
>>john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 15:33:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was harmonised many years ago
>>>>>>>> at one thousand million so there's no confusion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you give a reference for that?  I haven't found one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/
SN04440.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation.  The English Billion still
>>>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American
>>>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime
>>>>> Minister.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still
>>>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays.
>>>>
>>>>And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million
>>>>million. So one has to be careful when translating.
>>> 
>>> What is a thousand million in Spanish? Does it have a name? You could
>>> call it a heap or a muddle or a toomany. Heap is best because H is
>>> available... M and T are already used. J and L are a excellent letters
>>> too... Jillion or Lump.
>>
>>Europe has miliard, that was already mentioned.  I would use it when
>>meaning 1.0e9, no chance for confusion.  For 1.0e12 I would use
>>"thousend of miliards", as that IMO is less confusing for Americans than
>>"billion".
>> 
>> 
> We understand giga and tera. I hear people say gigabucks, 1e9 dollars.

That's what we all call a trillion. Coincidentally, a trillion dollars is 
what's being added to the US national debt every month now IIRC. All those 
phoney wars are very expensive!