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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JAB <here@is.invalid> Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss Subject: Re: mask mandate Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 12:49:01 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <viib2u$2ncgo$1@dont-email.me> References: <428aa68a-0b72-2e78-39a7-612347c3c797@example.net> <vic9po$12m73$1@dont-email.me> <16ff77d3-eb00-706f-2956-3f9e97aea4a5@example.net> <vidn3j$1ahlv$1@dont-email.me> <ab128a13-e129-ed7c-8886-0d50f5fdf4c0@example.net> <vif40f$1oh69$1@dont-email.me> <4a5443b3-5fda-8208-a048-9ff49e029acf@example.net> <vig174$1v22e$1@dont-email.me> <ded18764-60f5-bb3c-9921-5d07cb360746@example.net> <vihn5g$2gnlr$1@dont-email.me> <7d08f79f-f799-8b01-76f7-77f0d86157cc@example.net> Reply-To: JAB <here@is.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 19:49:03 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="04e4e0639885a15196d93268e387b04f"; logging-data="2863640"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+x7hk+mu7TVKhys6NgqQ+4" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:G1C5DyYcPIG/OYo29WS2KTymNQk= Bytes: 3175 On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:27:29 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> In US, the Republican party did not take Covid seriously, and the >> majority of deaths happened for those 50 and older. > >Sadly we don't know that. The only thing we know is that doctors reported >it, but there were incentives in place to ensure massive over estimation. But, your claim was "we must look at excess mortality over time," and now its being suggested "incentives in place to ensure massive over estimation." ======================================================== How are COVID-19 deaths counted, and what does this mean? .... .... In slightly more than 2 years, authorities have recorded 5.75 million COVID-19 deaths worldwide. Some people believe that this is an overestimate of the actual mortality from the disease. Others think COVID-19 has caused many more deaths than the official figures show. .... .... Whether the man died of COVID-19 or with COVID-19 is open to interpretation. And this is why some dispute the official figures. Died of or with COVID-19? The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a death from COVID-19 as "a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease, e.g., trauma." The U.S. attributes death to COVID-19 where this disease, or the coronavirus that causes it, appears as a cause or contributing cause of death on the death certificate. The U.K. records any death that occurs within 28 days of a positive PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 as a COVID-19 death. The official U.K. COVID-19 death toll is now about 159,000. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-and-what-does-this-mean#Official-figures