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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Two points
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 00:43:52 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:29:48 -0500, -hh wrote:

> On 11/29/24 4:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On 29 Nov 2024 14:52:53 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> 2) I own two Mac mini's, which are sitting in a drawer.  They were
>>> made from notebook equipment, and they are crap.
>> 
>> Since they switched to ARM, everything named “Mac” from Apple is now a
>> glorified notebook anyway.
> 
> Which makes it sound like notebooks haven't advanced in the past 20
> years to be as powerful as many desktops.

They are fundamentally compromised just from the form factor. As Scotty 
might have said, “Ya canna change the laws of physics, Cap’n!”. Push them 
too far for too long, and they get hot. Where does the heat go? And so 
they have to throttle back. Compared to a desktop with equivalent 
performance specs, they have no staying power.

>>> So we have a Mac Studio now, which is a low-end UNIX workstation.
>> 
>> Is that ARM-based? Is it as expandable as the old x86-based Mac Pro? If
>> no, then don’t call it a “workstation”.
>
> The moniker of "workstation" is a bit more nebulous these days, as more 
> and more task workflows can be adequately performed by core hardware 
> instead of needing specialized expansion cards.

In hardware terms, I think of it in terms of hardware that is configurable 
for different uses over its working life. You need upgradeable RAM and 
expansion slots for that. But Apple is doing away with those across its 
entire product line.