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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: What Made My Day Today :-)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 22:01:06 -0600
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On 12/1/24 7:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
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> 
> 
> - News has it that it was "discovered" that a large number of Iran's 
> industries that directly deal with the first phase of a number of 
> processes involving gas, oil, agriculture, etc, are working much more 
> slowly than they were a few years ago :)
> 
> This far, it already says enough about how two-bit managers are working 
> in Iran.
> 
> Then a task force was created to investigate it. It turned out that 
> these industries have trouble receiving nuts! Yes, bolts and nuts that 
> they order from foreign countries...
> 
> So the team did some more of looking and found out that all major 
> industries in Iran that used to make these nuts and bolts of various 
> sizes are down! ... Hahhahhahahh :) Talking about Mullah's placing their 
> sons at those positions.
> 
> So they investigated farther and the reason was that a few key parts in 
> all of these machines are defective, and the European companies who used 
> to supply them to Iran have stopped doing that.
> 
> So the machines stopped. Nuts and bolts stopped being manufactured. And 
> the effect of it fucked up major industries that need these nuts and bolts.
> 
> And guess what. Nobody was even talking about this :)
> 
> That's what happens when you involve clerics into areas of activity that 
> should not be their business.
> 
> This matter was reported to government and they sent their scientists 
> and engineers to check those machines out. They literally disassembled 
> these huge machines and studied every part of it; how they work, why 
> certain parts don't work, and found that the design of some of them 
> themselves were idiotic and would rapidly lead to some of their parts 
> getting ruined.
> 
> So instead of reproducing these parts now that EU would not sell them, 
> they decided to redesign these machines!
> 
> They did that, finished the job, created new machines with none of the 
> problems that the European ones had. They began churning out any nuts 
> and bolts ever needed, and this covered the 120 thousand tons of nuts 
> and bolts that Iran's industries needed yearly. So all those industries 
> began working as fast as before instead of waiting for nuts and bolts to 
> arrive from various parts of the world.
> 
> What hit me when I read that is that nobody even was complaining about 
> this. It had to be indirectly "discovered" :-( Imagine how many other 
> defects in the fabric of industry in Iran is there sitting to be 
> "discovered." Cause sure as hell nobody talks about it.
> 
> I think their owners aren't even in Iran. They're in California perhaps, 
> giving ass in San Francisco, and care little about what they own in 
> Iran. This can explain the comedy better than any other reason one could 
> think of.
> 
> These owners may have been Jews or Baha'is, anybody who doesn't give a 
> hoot about any industry in Iran, be it their own industries.
> 
> I hope by seeing the way this simple matter was discovered, the 
> authorities will get better at finding the rest of funny situations like 
> this and take care of them as well.
> 
> 


A similar situation, which still exists, is the matter of spare parts 
for European cars that are assembled in Iran. These assembler companies 
by the contract they have with buyers must provide spare parts for these 
cars, and yet they have difficulty getting them from Europeans. These 
deals with EU were placed years ago, in some cases decades back, and now 
the political situation has changed and EU car companies do not want to 
assume responsibility for providing spare parts. But profit is still 
high enough to continue supplying stuff to assemble their cars (cars in 
Iran, especially European cars, are extremely expensive).

Although this has created a local market for these parts, no investor is 
willing to risk his money on manufacturing them because the assembling 
contract might not last far enough in the future. Matters with EU can go 
downhill in one week without notice and the investors' parts company 
will suddenly be good for the life of the latest assembled cars only, 
and not more.

So buyers have sued these assembler companies and now there is a "law" 
forcing the assemblers to provide spare parts. So for them it is a 
dilemma right now. They don't know what to do.

This in turn has created obvious other problems. The prices of spare 
parts for these cars have skyrocketted, leading to yet another smuggling 
problem added to Iran's never ending smuggling issues. Also crappy parts 
now have popped into market (nobody knows from where) which are very bad 
imitations and are of low quality material and yet as expensive as the 
oem parts, and these parts sell too because no other options are readily 
available for customer. Many have their cars sitting and getting dust 
for months because the spare for them aren't found.

I think EU companies have been ordered to do that just to create stress 
among Iranians. Same people who order them to conduct never ending war 
in Ukraine, also press them to do this with Iran, as right now they 
could make good profit selling these parts.

But this issue is one of a consumer issue type, not one for countries 
major industries like what I described above. In fact it was in this 
context that the source brought out the nuts and bolts issue as an 
example of what government could do somewhere that it cannot do 
elsewhere for Iranians.