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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 06:53:14 -0500 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vik73d$3a9jm$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vi03un$2cv9g$1@dont-email.me> <67d9867b-2614-4475-975c-938bafca5c00@att.net> <vi1vep$2pjuo$1@dont-email.me> <a4ab640d-e482-42b0-bfb8-f3690b935ce1@att.net> <vi41rg$3cj8q$1@dont-email.me> <d124760c-9ff9-479f-b687-482c108adf68@att.net> <vi56or$3j04f$1@dont-email.me> <4a810760-86a1-44bb-a191-28f70e0b361b@att.net> <vi6uc3$3v0dn$4@dont-email.me> <b2d7ee1f-33ab-44b6-ac90-558ac2f768a7@att.net> <vi7tnf$4oqa$1@dont-email.me> <23311c1a-1487-4ee4-a822-cd965bd024a0@att.net> <e9eb6455-ed0e-43f6-9a53-61aa3757d22d@tha.de> <71758f338eb239b7419418f49dfd8177c59d778b@i2pn2.org> <via83s$jk72$2@dont-email.me> <viag8h$lvep$1@dont-email.me> <viaj9q$l91n$1@dont-email.me> <vibvfo$10t7o$1@dont-email.me> <vic6m9$11mrq$4@dont-email.me> <vicbp2$1316h$1@dont-email.me> <vid4ts$1777k$2@dont-email.me> <vidcv3$18pdu$1@dont-email.me> <bdbc0e3d-1db2-4d6a-9f71-368d36d96b40@tha.de> <vier32$1madr$1@dont-email.me> <vierv5$1l1ot$2@dont-email.me> <viiqfd$2qq41$5@dont-email.me> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 12:53:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3bf30b5d4491a807d4175c9fb17a2039"; logging-data="3483254"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19jVyuwyLe8eJJfrh5lHf9syqFu32hUfYo=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:N62Y7I3lq9EuC2OiJYFArAvCJRM= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 3272 Chris M. Thomasson brought next idea : > On 11/30/2024 3:12 AM, WM wrote: >> On 30.11.2024 11:57, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> WM explained : >>>> On 29.11.2024 22:50, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>> WM wrote on 11/29/2024 : >>>> >>>>>> The size of the intersection remains infinite as long as all >>>>>> endsegments remain infinite (= as long as only infinite endsegments are >>>>>> considered). >>>>> >>>>> Endsegments are defined as infinite, >>>> >>>> Endsegments are defined as endsegments. They have been defined by myself >>>> many years ago. >>> >>> As what is left after not considering a finite initial segment in your new >>> set and considering only the tail of the sequence. >> >> Not quite but roughly. The precise definitions are: >> Finite initial segment F(n) = {1, 2, 3, ..., n}. > > Finite? Huh? The natural numbers don't stop at n! WTF!!!! Lay off the drugs. That ordered set has a first element namely '1' and a last element, namely 'n' so yes, it is finite. >> Endsegment E(n) = {n, n+1, n+2, ...} This is his definition of endsegment, which as almost anyone can see, has no last element, so yes it is infinite. He says 'infinite endsegment' as if there were a choice, only to add confusion.