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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:24:23 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <vikfnb$3c296$2@dont-email.me> References: <1r3hwoc.n2yk211k1an2yN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhu82r$23cv5$1@dont-email.me> <1r3ix4d.1yypjir8hoviuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhv4k3$27kpu$2@dont-email.me> <vhvpl2$2ar1i$5@dont-email.me> <1r3jhb1.ks7h3uj4pk00N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vic61m$1a5ji$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> <1r3sfq2.1p1qdnk1d8sh9wN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <cvvo1lx4lu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <victje$1644r$1@dont-email.me> <v5sp1lxv75.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <k8frkjpafquuqm8dde4ptgcocog4kqvool@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 15:20:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c0b9d5792eeceaa0e80ed531d9bb87c"; logging-data="3541286"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/dgQksAAOvoCvzuExHd5bD" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:b9nNuGSnta0lLxFz1QS9/LqxGJ0= In-Reply-To: <k8frkjpafquuqm8dde4ptgcocog4kqvool@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3259 On 12/2/24 15:00, john larkin wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:35:11 +0100, "Carlos E.R." > <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2024-11-29 18:32, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>> On 11/29/24 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was >>>>>>>> harmonised many years ago at one thousand million so there's no >>>>>>>> confusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you give a reference for that? I haven't found one. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/ >>>>>> SN04440.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation. The English Billion still >>>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American >>>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime Minister. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still >>>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays. >>>> >>>> And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million >>>> million. So one has to be careful when translating. >>>> >>> >>> All this abundantly demonstrates that we're better off using the >>> metric prefixes instead. It'll be next to impossible to make >>> politicians and finance accept that though... >> >> Right! >> >> Or notations like 5*10^9 or 5E9 (calculators did this. Do they still >> do? 5E9 is very simple) > > 10^9 = 1e10 in some places. > What??? Where? Jeroen Belleman