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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 19:06:28 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <viksno$3g0hh$1@dont-email.me> References: <1r3hwoc.n2yk211k1an2yN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhu82r$23cv5$1@dont-email.me> <1r3ix4d.1yypjir8hoviuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhv4k3$27kpu$2@dont-email.me> <vhvpl2$2ar1i$5@dont-email.me> <1r3jhb1.ks7h3uj4pk00N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vic61m$1a5ji$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> <1r3sfq2.1p1qdnk1d8sh9wN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <cvvo1lx4lu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <victje$1644r$1@dont-email.me> <v5sp1lxv75.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <k8frkjpafquuqm8dde4ptgcocog4kqvool@4ax.com> <vikfnb$3c296$2@dont-email.me> <vikq33$3f9co$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 19:02:33 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c0b9d5792eeceaa0e80ed531d9bb87c"; logging-data="3670577"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Il2ZviGmkn2Ws5fhCd5HS" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pN+Q6jYR74C86Qc8IoX6yTDj2nI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vikq33$3f9co$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3654 On 12/2/24 18:17, Phil Hobbs wrote: > Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >> On 12/2/24 15:00, john larkin wrote: >>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:35:11 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2024-11-29 18:32, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>>>> On 11/29/24 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was >>>>>>>>>> harmonised many years ago at one thousand million so there's no >>>>>>>>>> confusion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you give a reference for that?� I haven't found one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/ >>>>>>>> SN04440.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation.� The English Billion still >>>>>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American >>>>>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime Minister. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still >>>>>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays. >>>>>> >>>>>> And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million >>>>>> million. So one has to be careful when translating. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All this abundantly demonstrates that we're better off using the >>>>> metric prefixes instead. It'll be next to impossible to make >>>>> politicians and finance accept that though... >>>> >>>> Right! >>>> >>>> Or notations like 5*10^9 or 5E9 (calculators did this. Do they still >>>> do? 5E9 is very simple) >>> >>> 10^9 = 1e10 in some places. >>> >> >> What??? Where? >> >> Jeroen Belleman >> > > Occasionally when I want 10 to the nine, I type 10E9. > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs > So it's you! Shame! Jeroen Belleman (Tongue in cheek)