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From: AJL <noemail@none.com>
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Subject: Re: A Useful Android Advantage: GPS Spoofing.
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 13:35:41 -0700
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On 12/2/2024 12:08 PM, Andrew wrote:
> AJL wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 18:13:34 -0000 (UTC) :

>>> How many people with plumbing repairs hire a plumber to do the
>>> dirty work?
>>
>> Me. But all the work is done safely and legally.
>
> Rest assured, living in the boonies myself, I do all my well pump
> and septic work,

City water here. City sewer here. Been in this house 24 years. No
problems (yet).

> I take care of my own pool,

Three HOA pools here. No maintenance for me...

> I cut down trees to burn for firewood myself,

Kill trees to pollute the atmosphere? Shame.

> I trench for my (off-grid) guerrilla solar setup,

No solar here. Shame on me. But then my electricity comes from the
nuclear plant 30 miles away so maybe no shame on me??

> I do my own electrical work, and plumbing repairs,

No electrical problems yet but I do call the plumber from time to time.

> I refill my carbon dioxide sodastream canisters at home, I refill my
>  one pound propane tanks from my 20 pounders which themselves are
> filled from my thousand-gallon propane tank,

Nothing like that here.

> I refill the vehicles with gasoline myself at home, my cars are 30
> years old and I do all the maintenance & repairs, including changing
>  the tires when they're worn and balancing them at home, etc.

Love those gas stations down the street. My cars a year old now so all
repairs are warranty.

> But my point was that the fact you "can" be tracked is more important
> than if the person who wants to track you "knows how" to do it

Of course I can be tracked. I can't think of anyone who would want to
track me though. It would be very boring for them...

> - since they can always hire someone to do that dirty work for them.

I suppose. Sounds like a bit of paranoia thinking to me though.

> If someone is going to track a spouse, I doubt they care if it's
> legal or not, but I even doubt whether or not it's illegal if no
> court order is involved. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. Neither are
>  you I presume. I suspect it's perfectly legal to "track a spouse" as
>  long as you don't break a law (e.g., violating a court order) in
> doing so.

Agreed. A court order is likely needed for a spouse. But hiring someone
to do the spouse tracking can likely be illegal.

> The privacy hole is that you "can" be tracked. Not that you "are"
> tracked, since you will likely never know if you're actually being
> tracked.

Agreed. So can you. Go to the doctor? It's online. Pay taxes? It's
online. Use a credit card? It's online. Have a bank account? It's
online. Etc etc etc. All available to the computer bad guys (and office
personnel). And you'll probably never know they're (gasp) looking at it...

> It's so easy to add a keylogger to any computing device, it's not
> funny. Anyone with physical access can do anything to most
> computers.

They'd have to break into my house to have access to my toys. If that
happens I suspect the toys would be gone, not key-logged. And unlike you
I keep all my home stuff locked (even my phone) with 5 digit pins so as 
to give me time to change the necessary passwords...