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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Ping Your Name Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 18:43:28 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vimcr1$3u8qn$1@dont-email.me> References: <vik6kk$3a5bg$1@dont-email.me> <vikdso$2138$6@gallifrey.nk.ca> <vikeig$3c6m6$1@dont-email.me> <vikifs$2sq6$3@gallifrey.nk.ca> <vikk6g$3dn0r$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 08:43:30 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="737b59ea60fd3614a928725d991f4d2e"; logging-data="4137815"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+aTcx97+NRxprWlR3EOv6ej/zPMAhODeI=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:j3xtIXwJyhyqWOYp96ZOmkseMuI= In-Reply-To: <vikk6g$3dn0r$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3892 The Last Doctor wrote on 3/12/24 2:36 am: > On 02/12/2024 15:07, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote: >> In article <vikeig$3c6m6$1@dont-email.me>, >> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote: >>> On 02/12/2024 13:49, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote: >>>> In article <vik6kk$3a5bg$1@dont-email.me>, >>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>>> This afternoon I caught up on the 'lastest' "The Brokenwood >>>>> Mysteries" episode, "Brokenwood-o-saurus" >>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31272072/?ref_=ttep_ep1 which had me >>>>> thinking about this group as the story was about a very religious >>>>> paleontologist ..... isn't that a contradiction?? A Person who >>>>> believes The Earth came into existance just 10,000 years ago (in >>>>> the program) but at the same time believes dinosaurs existed a >>>>> hundred million years ago. >>>>> >>>>> Sort of like our very own 'religious' nut who believes God created >>>>> Earth (alone) 6,000 years ago but accepts there could be >>>>> intelligent lifeforms from other planets .... that weren't made by >>>>> God!! ;-P >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> uAnd then there are Creationist scientists. >>> >>> No, Dave, there really aren't, except in a "first cause old Earth >>> Creationist" sense. >>> >>> Unless you are stretching the definition of "science". >>> I bet you won't find any New Earth Creationist biologists, physicists, >>> astronomers, geologists, or biochemists, for example. >>> >>> No-one expert in any science that would be relevant to supporting >>> Creationism is a New Earth Creationist because it's self evidently false >>> given the vast weight of scientific evidence against it and the complete >>> and utter absence of even one point of evidence that would support it. >> >> Sounds like anti-Christian bigotry to me. > > There are a great many scientists who are Christian. There are vanishingly > few who are Biblical Literalists or New Age Creationists because anyone > with a critical mind and even modest intelligence knows that these concepts > are just plain wrong and run counter to reason and to a faith that can ve > credible. > So only people who are prepared to lie to themselves and the people around > them constantly could practise honest science while holding beliefs that > run counter to fact, to reality, and to their scientific knowledge. > > It isn't bigotry to recognise lies and stupidity, Dave, and it isn't > anti-Christian - it's just common sense and having an honest faith. > ..... as in .... God GAVE US Free Choice ... so that we can weigh up all the presented FACTS and come to a LOGICAL conclusion!! By doing anything less, Gobble-de-gook, is to DISHONOUR GOD!! -- Daniel