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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:14:20 -0600
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On 12/4/2024 9:32 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Tue, 03 Dec 2024 17:08:34 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>> On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:35:16 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 11:32 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:07:16 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:51 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:47:10 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:27 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:16:15 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 4:04 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:15:41 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 8:03 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/24 8:28 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 6:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> If HHH halts at all, it needs to return that HHH halts.
>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH cannot possibly halt.
>>>>>>>> You can fail to understand that, you can lie about that, it
>>>>>>>> remains immutably a verified fact none-the-less.
>>>>>>> Yes, HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>>>> The code proves that HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD why lie?
>>>>> The code proves that HHH aborts.
>>>> You said:
>>>>    >>> HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>> That is WRONG !!!
>>>> HHH DOES EMULATE ITSELF PROVING THAT IT CAN EMULATE ITSELF.
>>> We know that HHH halts. It doesn't simulate itself halting.
>> Please try and explain how you are not dishonest what you try to change
>> the subject from my rebuttal of your statement:
>>   >>> HHH can't simulate itself.
>> That HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD proves THAT IT CAN DO THIS.
> I'm not changing the subject. HHH is a decider, right?
> 

We have not begun to get to that point of the
conversation yet. We have only been talking
about the emulation of DDD by HHH for three months.

_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

*We must go though my proof ONE-STEP-AT-A-TIME*

DDD emulated by any HHH according to the semantics of
the x86 language cannot possibly reach it "ret" instruction
whether HHH aborts this emulation after N steps or never aborts.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer