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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:58:03 -0600
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On 12/4/2024 1:22 PM, joes wrote:
> Am Wed, 04 Dec 2024 13:14:20 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>> On 12/4/2024 9:32 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Tue, 03 Dec 2024 17:08:34 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:35:16 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 11:32 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:07:16 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:51 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:47:10 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:27 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:16:15 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 4:04 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:15:41 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 8:03 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/24 8:28 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 6:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If HHH halts at all, it needs to return that HHH halts.
>>>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH cannot possibly halt.
>>>>>>>>>> You can fail to understand that, you can lie about that, it
>>>>>>>>>> remains immutably a verified fact none-the-less.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>>>>>> The code proves that HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD why
>>>>>>>> lie?
>>>>>>> The code proves that HHH aborts.
>>>>>> You said:
>>>>>>     >>> HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>>>> That is WRONG !!!
>>>>>> HHH DOES EMULATE ITSELF PROVING THAT IT CAN EMULATE ITSELF.
>>>>> We know that HHH halts. It doesn't simulate itself halting.
>>>> Please try and explain how you are not dishonest what you try to
>>>> change the subject from my rebuttal of your statement:
>>>>    >>> HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>> That HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD proves THAT IT CAN DO THIS.
>>> I'm not changing the subject. HHH is a decider, right?
>> We have not begun to get to that point of the conversation yet. We have
>> only been talking about the emulation of DDD by HHH for three months.
> For that it seems relevant what HHH does. Ok, it simulates some number
> of steps of its input, potentially forever?
> 
>> *We must go though my proof ONE-STEP-AT-A-TIME*
> Only you must. Why? Just give me the full thing, if you have it.
> 

It is impossibly too difficult to understand unless we
achieve mutual agreement on each point before moving on
to the next point.

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