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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 16:30:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 76 Message-ID: <viqhl5$139l2$1@dont-email.me> References: <viaov1$nh0h$2@dont-email.me> <071ikjds6op23p9b1vk6lg4l5379t7mv9l@4ax.com> <vib1e0$ouvk$1@dont-email.me> <rm3ikjdrk2c6m5ia2mcj32qrf2odp92dua@4ax.com> <vibb80$s01m$1@dont-email.me> <vicute$12qd5$2@dont-email.me> <j0gkkj1r7k5eqimh79o7vcc7sc4abro18j@4ax.com> <vieut7$1msjk$2@dont-email.me> <m7pmkj93qgktgha1a2ci6u4rhvvs6r2qk6@4ax.com> <vifpde$1tf8h$1@dont-email.me> <nermkj52tvp85j0gupdim58b315od66fd1@4ax.com> <vigakc$21500$1@dont-email.me> <pr2qkj1aqnm291jk8ikkgq1ah7gp6pugi9@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 22:30:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1d35060a46111d99ebdf9581444c5116"; logging-data="1156770"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+uZ257uLqcVjtzmIfMuUaiwGyPmSqvPOk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5SQozItOCeYOvQ6xpPT+y+QfBMA= In-Reply-To: <pr2qkj1aqnm291jk8ikkgq1ah7gp6pugi9@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4419 On 12/1/24 8:23 PM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >> Joel>>>> >>>>>> It doesn't suck for an external drive, using an external >>>>>> drive sucks as a continuous solution. >> >> Alan>>> Why? >> >> Joel>> >>>> If I want two drives, I want them both internal. However, since I >>>> have no wish to dual-boot Winblows, I don't need a second drive. >> >> Alan> >>> 1. That's not an answer. That's saying the same thing by different >>> words. >>> >>> 2. Having two drives has nothing to do with whether or not you are >>> dual-booting. >> >> My observation is that it depends on what the workflow use case needs >> are for if two drives are better (or needed) vs one, as well as if these >> are better (or worse) served by both being internal vs >> internal/external, etc. >> >> For example, contemplate the baseline 3-2-1 data backup strategy of >> having three backup copies at all times, preferably over two mediums, >> and having at least one be remote site located. FYI, 'remote site' is >> to mitigate single point failure risks such as a home fire destroying >> everything. Ditto lightning strikes if all are continuously plugged in. >> >> So for a home user, what's the hardware solution for rotating a backup >> copy to a remote site? The main simple options today are either to: >> >> a) pay $$ to rent Cloud storage, >> or >> b) an external hard drive: unplug and sneaker-net it to the remote. >> >> >> A common trade-off on option (a) is one's ISP: bandwidth speed >> limitations and monthly quota restrictions may interfere. >> >> For option (b), if you want to have an internal bay instead of an >> external HDD, that's fine ... but you're now looking at having to shut >> down your entire PC, opening the case, and yanking out this internally >> installed drive for each transfer to remote. How frequently will >> depends on your risk tolerance...a common best practice IIRC is weekly. > > > In fairness, since a Mac system is unlikely to dual-boot, compared to > a PC, the hardware from Apple isn't totally terrible. Where "isn't totally terrible" is stuff that's 30%-300% faster than your supposedly 'high end' system. > My machine > isn't really different, it just divides the SoC into different parts. > It's just that if I had some need for Windows, I would be able to > install it comfortably, ... If one wants to run Windows, just do it in a VM. BTDT. > ... or if I wanted to have a second modern drive > for some other reason. Which will just need to be on an 'external PCIe' instead of internal. Or use network attached storage. If you don't want to buy a NAS, see if your OS allows for sharing directories and use an old PC as a host. And if you think its visually unappealing, put it in another room. -hh