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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CJK_Rowling_Details_Cost_Of_Speaking_Out_On?= =?UTF-8?Q?_Trans_Issue=2C_Blasts_NYT_=E2=80=98Rewriting_Of_History=E2=80=99?= =?UTF-8?B?4oCd?= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:41:25 -0800 Organization: nil Lines: 62 Message-ID: <viqia5$13u3a$1@dont-email.me> References: <vil7ra$3iq0s$1@dont-email.me> <a1dukjdjro14sgc168ctunthssc0rbnu05@4ax.com> <vink3g$8p48$1@dont-email.me> <gPI3P.11258$sGt8.6951@fx44.iad> <viojp9$krd9$1@dont-email.me> <LD%3P.63772$vLg2.37099@fx17.iad> <viqgin$13p8p$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 22:41:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="62d586bb6d6a1eeb87ed3e64c4661812"; logging-data="1177706"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OZjFIEawh8LoPLZOsGK/Y" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ygmhIXEjbcKS/ntUcOsmhEiugnk= In-Reply-To: <viqgin$13p8p$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3750 On 12/4/24 13:11, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 12/4/2024 10:42 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes: >>> On 12/3/24 11:17, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >>>>> On 12/3/24 08:40, Paul S Person wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Actually a lot of statistics around the issue are simply >>>>> speculative as >>>>> are rumors of crimes done by Transgender people >>>>> in bathrooms belonging to any sex. Criminal men have been free >>>>> to enter women's toilets despite it being a crime. >>>> >>>> Most of it is either political firewood (hatred/division) or >>>> religious nutters pushing their vision of morality on the rest >>>> of the country. >>>> >>>> Back in the 80's, before they remodelled the facilities, one >>>> would routinely find ladies in the men's room at the Hollywood >>>> Bowl (just to avoid the hour-long lines for the few stalls >>>> available in the ladies). Nobody complained. Nobody was >>>> arrested. Nobody tried to make it illegal. >>> >>> I can remember seeing women in the restrooms of several sports stadiums >>> e.g. Stanford and Candlestick. I can also remember seeing a whole line >>> of men peeing under the railing and down the slope below the Stanford >>> stadium when there weren't enough restrooms. >>> >>> No one seemed to care. >>> >>>> >>>> Unisex lavatories aren't uncommon in Europe and have been >>>> for decades. >>>> >>>> Much ado about nothing. Speak out in public, expect criticism. >>>> >>>> Doxing et. al. is illegal and abhorrent regardless of the target or the >>>> reason behind it. >>>> >>>> OTOH, verbal and written criticism should be expected when any >>>> high-profile individual airs their opinion(s) on a controversial topic. >>> >>> I don't think the debate about people with Y chromosomes competing >>> against XX people is over yet. Consider that Serena Williams (I think) >>> who was #1 in women's tennis said that the #200 man in men's tennis >>> would beat her. >> >> I do remember the Billy Jean King match with Bobby Riggs. > > Bobby Riggs was 26 years older than Billy Jean King so it was not an > even match. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) > > Lynn > Riggs took the chalenge under the impression that Billy Jean would be easy to beat. bliss