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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:41:27 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <vir0c7$17d36$1@dont-email.me> References: <vhdd32$oq0l$1@dont-email.me> <GcudnQRbD7HyPNv6nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <vi72fe$dbk$1@dont-email.me> <vi76pj$106j$2@dont-email.me> <db87472521a4e553e992c6933a235dec24fb002f@i2pn2.org> <vi8g7t$85ij$1@dont-email.me> <ee397fde844b6e8f2266885eb1b657ad4da768f8@i2pn2.org> <via50f$ju6v$1@dont-email.me> <349430b1223591beb2ebea42b5f3a9e64ea8d795@i2pn2.org> <via6qe$ju6v$5@dont-email.me> <f4f759fcc2f0b701a91e38062c25d16534e470af@i2pn2.org> <via804$kfnn$1@dont-email.me> <39d1fae0d0e03ceb82a6a7c722581d5e84d4998f@i2pn2.org> <via9kk$kpf2$1@dont-email.me> <6f73ca664f7017ea34651a485a4bd3602e9cbe57@i2pn2.org> <vilrih$3n2q7$2@dont-email.me> <b961b7e79a85fcb3bbd058930fef41e582f7acdd@i2pn2.org> <vio31i$dg23$1@dont-email.me> <4ccc2cbecfd0e6befd031ed394f1262edd021822@i2pn2.org> <viposd$u16a$1@dont-email.me> <dd3385b7f379281e5d476701f96e30538ea85802@i2pn2.org> <viqua6$16uvh$1@dont-email.me> <3d80e95768bf6260168865530aaad3591aa03fda@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 02:41:28 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="82d763d7392223528bd18341fe8d5ce7"; logging-data="1291366"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18IjS8HdhWq4EBmePs0M3Y0" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:y+47AXTQQB7KAtS+jcGUstmXJlk= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <3d80e95768bf6260168865530aaad3591aa03fda@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241204-6, 12/4/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4001 On 12/4/2024 7:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 12/4/24 8:06 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 12/4/2024 6:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 12/4/24 9:27 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 12/3/2024 5:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 12/3/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> You said: >>>>>>>> >>> HHH can't simulate itself. >>>>>>>> That is WRONG !!! >>>>>>>> HHH DOES EMULATE ITSELF PROVING THAT IT CAN EMULATE ITSELF. >>>>>>> We know that HHH halts. It doesn't simulate itself halting. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please try and explain how you are not dishonest what you >>>>>> try to change the subject from my rebuttal of your statement: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> HHH can't simulate itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> That HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD proves >>>>>> THAT IT CAN DO THIS. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But only if your think that wrong answer can be right. >>>> >>>> I did not mention anything about answers my entire >>>> scope is that HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD >>>> thus conclusively proving that HHH can emulated itself >>>> emulating DDD. >>>> >>>> Whenever you go out-of-scope like this it surely >>>> seems dishonest to me. >>>> >>> >>> But the behaivor that HHH shows that it has *IS* an "answer", >> >> DDD emulated by any HHH according to the semantics of >> the x86 language cannot possibly reach its "ret" instruction >> whether HHH aborts this emulation after N steps or never aborts. >> >> > > Just a nonsense sentence, since HHH can't emulate HHH as it isn't given > it, Why do you have to keep fucking lying about this? I could die on the operating table in two weeks! -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer