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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Dutch-like language [OT]
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 06:59:29 GMT
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On a sunny day (Wed, 4 Dec 2024 11:41:47 +0000) it happened
liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in
<1r41fmk.crf6y01c42hhcN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>:

>Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:59:22 +0000) it happened
>> liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in
>> <1r3zqks.1pae81f187shiuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>:
>> 
>> >Last night in the 80-metre band I heard two 'hams' talking.  The vowel
>> >sounds of their voices seemed to be characteristically Dutch (an accent
>> >like the Groningen area) but the language was completely
>> >incomprehensible.  I listened for several minutes but didn't hear a
>> >single word I recognised
>> >
>> >Do any of our Dutch contributors know of some dialect that is Dutch in
>> >sound but does not use the standard Dutch language?
>> >
>> >[I tried to send this to Jan by e-mail but the address I found for him
>> >on the Web just bounced.]
>> 
>> There is the Frisian (Fries) language, spoken west of Groningen
>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language
>> And Gronings
>> And Drents:
>
>I have listened to the Wikipedia recordings of Fries and Gronings (there
>doesn't seem to be one of Drents).  Fries doesn't seem to have the
>frequency of typically Dutch pronunciation of the G and CH sounds that i
>heard in the QSO.  Gronings had those sounds but many of the words are
>just slightly eccented standard Dutch words which weren't in the QSO.
>The mystery remains, so if I hear that language again, I shall have to
>record it.

Yes, let's here it! Maybe somebody here will know,
I will listen to it, who knows,
lived all over the country.


>> Have not listened to 80 meter for a long time, much local noise here.
>
>It was like that here until I put a really good (3-wire inductive) mains
>filter right against the input to the receiver and then solidly earthed
>the receiver chassis with an independent earthing system of heavy wire
>soldered to spaced earth rods, using a blowlamp.

I should make a good wire antenna, have an antenna tuner,
but so many other projects.
Much locally here is happening on 70 cm, simple Baofeng will do, repeaters plenty.

As to the local noise, so many wall warts, other stuff in use...
Even GPS is no longer possible indoors since the neighbors had huge solar panels installed
I think that converter also makes noise.

There is a project on the web that subtracts local RF noise from the antenna signal