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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Odd behaviour?
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:26:26 +0000
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On 05/12/2024 11:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-05 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 05/12/2024 10:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-05 08:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 04/12/2024 18:41, Rich wrote:
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/12/2024 22:24, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I find puzzling is how it appears in the GUI but isn't on the
>>>>>>>> actual machine file system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> funky characters in filename?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ls -la | cat -v
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Still no sign
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think some part of the GUI environment builds a cache, and its in
>>>>>> that, but not in the real world so to speak
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the GUI file browser program you use under Mate?
>>>>>
>>>> Caja
>>>>
>>>>> Many "GUI file browsers" have a tendancy to "combine" plural actual
>>>>> disk paths into the 'appearance' of a singular view (and "Desktop" is
>>>>> one of those 'views' that GUI dev's think need this miss-feature).
>>>>>
>>>>> So it is possible the file it is located somewhere other than
>>>>> ~/Desktop/ and the GUI is merging together that other location with 
>>>>> the
>>>>> contents of the actual ~/Desktop/, and presenting the combination to
>>>>> you as "Desktop".
>>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Still doesn't say why it cant be deleted/found Even from the 
>>>> GUI file manager
>>>
>>> Because it would be on another directory.
>>>
>> But if the GUI knows where it is the GUI should be able to delete it.
> 
> The GUI is not a magician.

No, but it must have consistent rules. If Caja displays it Caja can 
delete it and the same for the desktop manager as well

The fact is it is - or was - a ghost. It only existed as far as I can 
tell in the GUI cache...



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