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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:52:38 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vitotm$23fab$1@dont-email.me> References: <vibb80$s01m$1@dont-email.me> <vicute$12qd5$2@dont-email.me> <j0gkkj1r7k5eqimh79o7vcc7sc4abro18j@4ax.com> <vieut7$1msjk$2@dont-email.me> <m7pmkj93qgktgha1a2ci6u4rhvvs6r2qk6@4ax.com> <vifpde$1tf8h$1@dont-email.me> <nermkj52tvp85j0gupdim58b315od66fd1@4ax.com> <vigakc$21500$1@dont-email.me> <pr2qkj1aqnm291jk8ikkgq1ah7gp6pugi9@4ax.com> <viqhl5$139l2$1@dont-email.me> <sar1ljdekeh3nqqsucjdimj1675aln1a83@4ax.com> <visjbn$1mraa$2@dont-email.me> <17d4ljd6ajlkjlbf2r86cflqfbjljjoup1@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 03:52:38 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4a1b58abb3c2dc4ff7a4c88c0de33a3f"; logging-data="2211147"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18OKFPidknlPHqqwANc4utnj/OM3+eiGBQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:pKxCttKbaqsPRzGmej8LRKUJsTs= In-Reply-To: <17d4ljd6ajlkjlbf2r86cflqfbjljjoup1@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2558 On 12/5/24 6:19 PM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>> I can have a second NVMe. I wanted that to be possible. I might not >>> really have the slightest use for it, but it's part of having a real >>> motherboard, I wanted the one I got for a reason. >> >> But you're not unique: I already have a second & third NVMe attached, >> and they has performance parity with your PCIe 3 open slot, plus as an >> external, it is more convenient for sneakernet, remote site backup, etc. >> Plus I actually have a workflow use case need for them, not a "wanna". > > > I dispute that external drives are equivalent. Post benchmarks on your system then. Something that looks like this test I did way back in 2015; <http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Misc/blackmagic-3GB-2015-07-22-OWC> Make sure to also include an NVMe benched on the open slot that's on the slower PCIe 3 bus that you've been saying is your 'future expansion'. -hh