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From: JAB <noway@nochance.com>
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Subject: Re: Computer Build
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 11:21:47 +0000
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On 05/12/2024 20:47, Justisaur wrote:
> On 12/4/2024 1:37 AM, JAB wrote:
>> On 02/12/2024 21:23, Justisaur wrote:
>>> My son expressed an interest in upgrading his computer, he's waffling 
>>> though, as I told him he needs to pay for it himself.  He has the 
>>> money, but doesn't want to use it.  I would pay local taxes to help out.
>>>
>>> My goal was to keep costs down, but make it at least as good as what 
>>> I have now. The one he has now is a handmedown from his grands, 
>>> unfortunately the case is a propriatary dell with a propriatary 
>>> motherboard, a normal ATX doesn't fit in it, so I can't use it.  I 
>>> may be able to use the PSU, but need to tear it apart to do so.  I'm 
>>> only planning on a 500W PSU as it seems power requirements have gone 
>>> down considerably.
>>
>> My not so helpfully advice is don't overthink it too much as the 
>> reality is unless you do something disastrous it's going to do the job 
>> for you. My last upgrade, instead of doing my customary spending ages 
>> trying to decide exactly what to get I went down the I don't need a 
>> 'god like' PC so let's just spend a little bit of time online looking 
>> for recommended budget gaming set-ups. Did I get the best value for 
>> money, almost definitely not but I also didn't waste hours upon hours 
>> of 'research' just to say feck it I'll go with that which I looked at 
>> two weeks ago.
>>
>> The other problem I found is that what would seem a good place for 
>> advice (real people online) turns out to be really problematic in that 
>> it ranges from at worst bad advice and at best this is the system I 
>> would want regardless of whether that would met your needs. Oh you 
>> want a new PC for general day-to-day stuff as some light gaming. Well 
>> clearly what you want is system built around a 4090!
> 
> The adive I've gotten here has been far above anything I've found 
> elsewhere over the years :)  Hopefully I've given some too.
> 
> I already ordered it, I probably made some mistakes (as Ross pointed 
> out) but it's still hundreds of dollars less than a branded gaming 
> computer of probably similar performance (or more like much higher 
> performance for the budget than one.)
>


All I really know about gaming PC's is that you are almost always going 
to overpay for what you actually get unless you really value a flash 
case and some 'cool' stickers!

> I do have to put it together, which I've definitely lost a lot of my 
> interest for after my last one, but I'm willing to put in the time for 
> my family.  If I counted what I'm paid vs. the time put into it, I'm 
> sure I come out behind.  Part of it is just my hatred of getting stuck 
> with unupgradable proprietary junk.  Not that I usually upgrade anything 
> except the video card separately, but the PS & case can last many 
> generations of computer.  I know one can get the computer built to order 
> with the parts you want but that comes at a premium.
> 

Similar to me as the time between refreshes means that I never really 
have a choice but to get at least MB + CPU + RAM, so much for the idea 
of future proofing a PC. As for putting it together, I cheated slightly 
with my last one in that I bought the MB + CPU + RAM pre-built. Can I 
have spent more time shopping around to get a better deal, probably but 
putting the CPU in is one of the parts I just don't like doing.