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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.lang.c,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: This first time anyone In the entire history of the halting problem derived a correct return value for HHH(DD) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 20:47:54 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <vj0d0q$2n835$2@dont-email.me> References: <vhdd32$oq0l$1@dont-email.me> <via6qe$ju6v$5@dont-email.me> <f4f759fcc2f0b701a91e38062c25d16534e470af@i2pn2.org> <via804$kfnn$1@dont-email.me> <39d1fae0d0e03ceb82a6a7c722581d5e84d4998f@i2pn2.org> <via9kk$kpf2$1@dont-email.me> <6f73ca664f7017ea34651a485a4bd3602e9cbe57@i2pn2.org> <vilrih$3n2q7$2@dont-email.me> <b961b7e79a85fcb3bbd058930fef41e582f7acdd@i2pn2.org> <vio31i$dg23$1@dont-email.me> <4ccc2cbecfd0e6befd031ed394f1262edd021822@i2pn2.org> <viposd$u16a$1@dont-email.me> <dd3385b7f379281e5d476701f96e30538ea85802@i2pn2.org> <viqua6$16uvh$1@dont-email.me> <3d80e95768bf6260168865530aaad3591aa03fda@i2pn2.org> <vir0c7$17d36$1@dont-email.me> <6d0683c816f5f63b3a17c8a52e9b691eecc143a8@i2pn2.org> <vir0sq$17ga3$1@dont-email.me> <2ebbdef8e9070397a2ec3db6dbc37c16f1fe8923@i2pn2.org> <vir9n1$1cqu9$1@dont-email.me> <visnat$1o5le$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vj0amr$2mpd0$1@dont-email.me> <5e1d34cbe07b0dbffe60a12121f2f751b308c1c5@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 03:47:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e9bb7a7e09a052885dc07388bbe7af3b"; logging-data="2859109"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/b5oN/01GVhcN8o7ragJ+u" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:tqS+ZcEDcZ/vKECX1KPKflBajFQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <5e1d34cbe07b0dbffe60a12121f2f751b308c1c5@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241206-10, 12/6/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 4127 On 12/6/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 12/6/24 9:08 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 12/5/2024 11:20 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>> Am 05.12.2024 um 05:20 schrieb olcott: >>>> There is an 80% chance that I will be alive in one month. >>>> There may be an extended pause in my comments. >>>> I will try to bring a computer to the out of town hospital. >>> >>> Maybe you'll solve your halting problem issues before you die. >>> >> >> typedef void (*ptr)(); >> int HHH(ptr P); >> >> int DD() >> { >> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >> if (Halt_Status) >> HERE: goto HERE; >> return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> int main() >> { >> HHH(DD); >> } >> >> >> I am sure that DD correctly emulated by HHH according to >> the semantics of the C programming language cannot possibly >> reach its own return instruction final halt state. > > How does HHH correctly emulated DD, if it isn't give tne code for the > HHH that DD calls? > As I have told you many dozens of times HHH and DD share the same global memory space within memory version of the Halt7.obj file. _DD() [0000213e] 55 push ebp [0000213f] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00002141] 51 push ecx [00002142] 683e210000 push 0000213e [00002147] e8a2f4ffff call 000015ee ; *call HHH in global memory* [0000214c] 83c404 add esp,+04 [0000214f] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax [00002152] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 [00002156] 7402 jz 0000215a [00002158] ebfe jmp 00002158 [0000215a] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] [0000215d] 8be5 mov esp,ebp [0000215f] 5d pop ebp [00002160] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0035) [00002160] Line 1354 called on line 1388 https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer