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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: Pi-FAN for RPi4 with 4 (instead of 3) cables? Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 12:31:59 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <vj1f7v$32o95$1@dont-email.me> References: <lr6kk0FnendU1@mid.individual.net> <nco*Rz70z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <lrbiqpFh6q1U1@mid.individual.net> <virltb$1fqan$1@dont-email.me> <lrgherFb1j1U1@mid.individual.net> <vj1d28$31v9g$12@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 13:32:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f37bb11b4545d1d2f22d37bb9552a63"; logging-data="3236133"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX186vn6r6gEn3PSUq/KlB6rAZmjQPIW801I=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1TEm5oH/2fCbe3zqFPAuVqEenFY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vj1d28$31v9g$12@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3497 On 12/7/24 11:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/12/2024 14:53, s|b wrote: >> On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:48:59 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>>> Tnx for the follow-up. According to the shop I could just snip the >>>> green >>>> wire, so I've done that. I've set it to run at 60°C and the fan's not >>>> turning (CPU temperature is 48°C). >>> My Pi 4B runs about that with no fan >> >> That's what I'm saying: it's 48°C when the fan is not running. Software >> only allows to set a minimum temperature of 60°C before the fan starts >> running, so I unchecked the setting and now the fan is turning all the >> time. A fan with only 2 cables (red & black) should have been enough. I >> don't know if there's a way to set that minimum temperature to 40°C... >> >> But yes, it's not really necessary and I shouldn't have bought it. But >> it was fun setting it up. I use RPi4 for Pi-Hole and PiVPN. I've played >> a little with RetroPie, so maybe I'll give that another go, because I >> have two RPi4 now. >> >> I used a Pimoroni Heatsink Case for the first one I bought: >> <https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/aluminium-heatsink-case-for- >> raspberry-pi-4?variant=29430673178707> >> >> Temperature is around 40°C. >> >> The Unity V2 comes with a fan: >> <https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/en/unity-v2-case-for-rpi-4-20096? >> search=unity> >> >> Temperature is between 30° and 35°C. (There's a real peak when I open >> Fx.) >> > > It's an interesting thought as to why one would use a fan at all. If its > such a high compute task that you need one, maybe a bigger Pi or an > Intel based machine is indicated. > Heat is often about continuous utilisation, like CCTV. On my Pi4 I have a heavy aluminium case that serves as a heat sink, it is fine without a fan. On my Pi5, I use the official active cooler heat sink, which has a fan. But a good fan, in that it only comes on during the hottest days of summer. In a moment of stupidity I also bought a metal case for the Pi5 which messes up my USB keyboard/mouse dongle (reflection?), I haven't checked to see what it does to Bluetooth and WiFi. > I dislike fans. They fail. > They do, but they normally last for years.