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Path: ...!news.snarked.org!xmission!nnrp.xmission!.POSTED.shell.xmission.com!not-for-mail From: gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 15:00:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: The official candy of the new Millennium Message-ID: <vj1nv2$1dc7k$1@news.xmission.com> References: <vh9vgr$5bb$1@dont-email.me> <viujjv$29frk$1@dont-email.me> <vivl5m$2hrka$1@dont-email.me> <vj16j0$30r12$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 15:00:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.xmission.com; posting-host="shell.xmission.com:166.70.8.4"; logging-data="1487092"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@xmission.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) Bytes: 1929 Lines: 27 In article <vj16j0$30r12$1@dont-email.me>, <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote: .... >>What would you say systemd does that is not related to that? > >Networking, including DNS >Graphics >Logging >systemd-boot > >Basically init should start the system, maintain some the running of >some essential daemons and then leave well alone. I agree with you. But it underscores a major difference between two very different ways of thinking about computing, which can be described as "Unix-think" vs. "Windows-think". systemd represents nothing so much as the bringing of "Windows-think" to Unix. If one embraces "Windows-think", then systemd makes complete sense. In fact, systemd is a lot of like the original goal of MS's "dot net", which was to put a solid wall between the applications programmer and the actual operating system. -- If Jeb is Charlie Brown kicking a football-pulled-away, Mitt is a '50s housewife with a black eye who insists to her friends the roast wasn't dry.