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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 18:37:26 +0000
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On 07/12/2024 17:24, D wrote:
> It would hardly be the first time in human history that we go through 
> some kind of dark age, only to come out of it and eventually pick up 
> speed towards new highs.
> 
> I think perhaps the future consists of multi-polar, virtual communities, 
> hiding in plain sight. The wokists do their thing, crash a society or 
> two, get thrown out, things start to improve, until the next group comes 
> along, generating an anti-group and so on.

A quick glance at the 'iron law of oligarchy' is revealing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy

> 
> Meanwhile, in cyberspace, all the cool kids gather, learn, help each 
> other out.
> 
Or get cancelled because their views represent a threat to the 
established elites.

> Of course, since we have about 190+ countries or so, some will be more 
> successful than others, and the interesting thing there is if they will 
> be pressured by the failing ones to submit and share their wealth or if 
> they will manage to somehow stay independent. I think the size of them 
> would determine the outcome. Monaco and Liechtenstein have been able to 
> survive longer than some modern european democracies, so it is not 
> impossible, although difficult.

One of the great reasons I dislike the European Union is precisely 
because it seeks to impose, by force, a monolithic 'European culture' 
whereas in times of crisis, the last thing you want is to  be on a ship 
with no watertight doors - if the ship gets holed, down we all go.

We don't know the right answers, we have to experiment. And some 
experiments end in failure. Communism ended in failure.

But why then are we so keen  to reintroduce it?


-- 
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that 
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is 
fully understood.