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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Climate Change Denialism in SF Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 14:32:42 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vj2bda$3ad69$2@dont-email.me> References: <robertaw-ED1870.21583806122024@news.individual.net> <vj25aj$4nd$1@reader2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 21:32:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78790209c41b1c69b7d08ffba5162f0d"; logging-data="3486921"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ktdIyEML8fLV0ZElx3EeYkuSZ5f1fVZU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:sRhcNcSP53yjSeK7kAMb5WdHtSc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vj25aj$4nd$1@reader2.panix.com> Bytes: 2596 On 12/7/2024 12:48 PM, James Nicoll wrote: > In article <robertaw-ED1870.21583806122024@news.individual.net>, > Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote: >> I know of one book, _The Last Centurion_ by John Ringo (published in >> 2008). There are probably others. What is really odd about _tLC_, is >> that there was a pandemic starting, IIRC, in 2019 (a really nasty one - >> world fatalities, IMS, exceeded 1 billion). Oh, yes, the US presidential >> administration flubbed the response, big time (I believe the president >> was a "Hillary Clinton" pastiche). There was significant turmoil over >> the 2020 Presidential election as well. > > Camestros Felapton looked for Contrarian Cli-Fi in 2022 and found > surprisingly few examples, of which the Ringo was one. Another was > Pournelle, Niven, and Flynn's dire Fallen Angels, which judging > by the frequency with which people mentioned it in the comments to > relevant essays of mine on Tor Dot Com/Reactor is by far the > better known of the two. Crichton's State of Fear was a third > (and I have not read it). > > Otherwise, esp if one leaves off pre-1990 examples, CCF is a weirdly > undersupplied genre, at least from major publishers. Lots of authors > loudly proclaim their skepticism but it does not seem to percolate > into their fiction. > > (There was an odd assertion in an L. Neil Smith about Antarctica > being ice-free 15,000 years ago but it didn't really figure into > the plot) James, you have a great memory. Lynn