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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: This first time anyone In the entire history of the halting
 problem derived a correct return value for HHH(DD)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 16:46:26 -0600
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On 12/7/2024 4:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 12/7/24 1:44 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 12/7/2024 12:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 12/7/24 10:43 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 12/7/2024 6:18 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 12/7/24 6:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/6/2024 9:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/6/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/6/24 9:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/5/2024 11:20 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.12.2024 um 05:20 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is an 80% chance that I will be alive in one month.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There may be an extended pause in my comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will try to bring a computer to the out of town hospital.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll solve your halting problem issues before you die.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>>>>>>>>>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> int DD()
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>     int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>>>>>>>     if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>>>>>       HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>>     return Halt_Status;
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>     HHH(DD);
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am sure that DD correctly emulated by HHH according to
>>>>>>>>>> the semantics of the C programming language cannot possibly
>>>>>>>>>> reach its own return instruction final halt state.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does HHH correctly emulated DD, if it isn't give tne code 
>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>> HHH that DD calls?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I have told you many dozens of times HHH and DD share
>>>>>>>> the same global memory space within memory version of the
>>>>>>>> Halt7.obj file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And thus you admit that your HHH isn’t the required “pure 
>>>>>>> function” as its
>>>>>>> result is dependent on that contents of that global memory, and 
>>>>>>> not just
>>>>>>> its input, as required by the definition of a global function,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First we have to acknowledge that pure function or not HHH does 
>>>>>> something unprecedented in the history of the halting problem:
>>>>>> HHH does correctly reject its input as non-halting.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it doesn't do anything "unprecedented".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Changing the subject to a different criteria
>>>> IS CHEATING USING THE STRAWMAN DECEPTION
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right, which is what *YOU* have done. As your subject says, you are 
>>> talking about the *HALTING PROPBLEM* which has a defined criteeria
>>>
>>
>> When I say the the work that I accomplished ON MY CRITERIA
>> has never been done before IT IS WOEFULLY DISHONEST to
>> rebut this by changing the subject to some other criteria.
>>
> 
> 
> Then the work you have accopmllished is just a LIE.
> 
> Just like the climare and election deniers.
> 

I wrote a paper on climate change
Severe anthropogenic climate change proven entirely with verifiable facts
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336568434_Severe_anthropogenic_climate_change_proven_entirely_with_verifiable_facts 


typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);

int DD()
{
   int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
   if (Halt_Status)
     HERE: goto HERE;
   return Halt_Status;
}

int main()
{
   HHH(DD);
}


When I say that simulating termination analyzer HHH does
correctly reject DD on the basis that DD emulated by HHH**
does not halt THIS IS A MATTER OF FACT.

**according to the semantics of C or x86 machine language.



-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer