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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: This first time anyone In the entire history of the halting problem derived a correct return value for HHH(DD) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 16:46:26 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 116 Message-ID: <vj2j83$3bqcr$2@dont-email.me> References: <f4f759fcc2f0b701a91e38062c25d16534e470af@i2pn2.org> <vio31i$dg23$1@dont-email.me> <4ccc2cbecfd0e6befd031ed394f1262edd021822@i2pn2.org> <viposd$u16a$1@dont-email.me> <dd3385b7f379281e5d476701f96e30538ea85802@i2pn2.org> <viqua6$16uvh$1@dont-email.me> <3d80e95768bf6260168865530aaad3591aa03fda@i2pn2.org> <vir0c7$17d36$1@dont-email.me> <6d0683c816f5f63b3a17c8a52e9b691eecc143a8@i2pn2.org> <vir0sq$17ga3$1@dont-email.me> <2ebbdef8e9070397a2ec3db6dbc37c16f1fe8923@i2pn2.org> <vir9n1$1cqu9$1@dont-email.me> <visnat$1o5le$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vj0amr$2mpd0$1@dont-email.me> <5e1d34cbe07b0dbffe60a12121f2f751b308c1c5@i2pn2.org> <vj0d0q$2n835$2@dont-email.me> <vj0glp$2ruve$1@dont-email.me> <vj1bno$31ulr$1@dont-email.me> <a878bf6ecb0762730ecc95c40e09d6ba93cb5293@i2pn2.org> <vj1qeu$35kfh$1@dont-email.me> <3431ec3bd2abdc62d693959664e202aa3bc214bd@i2pn2.org> <vj252d$38tkl$1@dont-email.me> <9d0a00ef6ef09f7b79e6f91983050dc17afcc151@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 23:46:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e9bb7a7e09a052885dc07388bbe7af3b"; logging-data="3533211"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OZVpf8bb+1Ne2MrRaQqLM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4qCYzbc8nYQC4QooOF+6o17Lahk= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <9d0a00ef6ef09f7b79e6f91983050dc17afcc151@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241207-4, 12/7/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 5911 On 12/7/2024 4:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 12/7/24 1:44 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 12/7/2024 12:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 12/7/24 10:43 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 12/7/2024 6:18 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 12/7/24 6:32 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 12/6/2024 9:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/6/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/6/24 9:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 12/5/2024 11:20 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.12.2024 um 05:20 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>> There is an 80% chance that I will be alive in one month. >>>>>>>>>>>> There may be an extended pause in my comments. >>>>>>>>>>>> I will try to bring a computer to the out of town hospital. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll solve your halting problem issues before you die. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)(); >>>>>>>>>> int HHH(ptr P); >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> int DD() >>>>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>>>>>>>>> if (Halt_Status) >>>>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>>>>>>>> return Halt_Status; >>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> int main() >>>>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>>> HHH(DD); >>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am sure that DD correctly emulated by HHH according to >>>>>>>>>> the semantics of the C programming language cannot possibly >>>>>>>>>> reach its own return instruction final halt state. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How does HHH correctly emulated DD, if it isn't give tne code >>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>> HHH that DD calls? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As I have told you many dozens of times HHH and DD share >>>>>>>> the same global memory space within memory version of the >>>>>>>> Halt7.obj file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And thus you admit that your HHH isn’t the required “pure >>>>>>> function” as its >>>>>>> result is dependent on that contents of that global memory, and >>>>>>> not just >>>>>>> its input, as required by the definition of a global function, >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> First we have to acknowledge that pure function or not HHH does >>>>>> something unprecedented in the history of the halting problem: >>>>>> HHH does correctly reject its input as non-halting. >>>>> >>>>> No, it doesn't do anything "unprecedented". >>>>> >>>> >>>> Changing the subject to a different criteria >>>> IS CHEATING USING THE STRAWMAN DECEPTION >>>> >>> >>> Right, which is what *YOU* have done. As your subject says, you are >>> talking about the *HALTING PROPBLEM* which has a defined criteeria >>> >> >> When I say the the work that I accomplished ON MY CRITERIA >> has never been done before IT IS WOEFULLY DISHONEST to >> rebut this by changing the subject to some other criteria. >> > > > Then the work you have accopmllished is just a LIE. > > Just like the climare and election deniers. > I wrote a paper on climate change Severe anthropogenic climate change proven entirely with verifiable facts https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336568434_Severe_anthropogenic_climate_change_proven_entirely_with_verifiable_facts typedef void (*ptr)(); int HHH(ptr P); int DD() { int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); if (Halt_Status) HERE: goto HERE; return Halt_Status; } int main() { HHH(DD); } When I say that simulating termination analyzer HHH does correctly reject DD on the basis that DD emulated by HHH** does not halt THIS IS A MATTER OF FACT. **according to the semantics of C or x86 machine language. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer