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From: Bart <bc@freeuk.com>
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Subject: Re: question about linker
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 22:47:22 +0000
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On 07/12/2024 21:38, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> On 07/12/2024 14:36, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>> On 07.12.2024 14:04, Bart wrote:
>>> Just fine, I'd say.
>>>
>>>> But it relies on some subtlety.
>>> You seem to see ghosts. There's no subtlety; all is clearly defined,
>>> and it's a sensible feature, and consistently implemented.
>>>
>>>> 'while (cond)' both starts a statement, and can
>>>> end a statement:
>>>>
>>>>      do while(cond) do ; while (cond);
>>> What is this (IMO syntactical wrong "C" code) supposed to do or to
>>> explain?
>>
>> See my follow-up.
>>
>>> Your (wrong) second 'do' was indeed confusing! - Why did you provide
>>> a wrong sample to confirm your wrong ideas? - Or is it just your well
>>> known habit to try to confuse other folks as well my making up stupid
>>> things?
>>
>> You're being aggressive. It was a mistake, that's all. My original
>> example was meant to show how it gets confusing, but when I
>> transcribed it into an actual program, it seemed to work because I'd
>> left out that 'do'.
> 
> OK, it was a mistake.  Someone pointed it out.  And you took offense at
> that for some reason.

You can point things out politely, especially if you think the mistake 
was inadvertent. Instead there were just snide insinuations:

  - "Why did you ... to confirm your wrong ideas?"
  - "Your well known habit ... to try and confuse...
  - "making up stupid things"



Suppose you are criticising a thing that someone else has created, a bit 
of software, maybe a language, some CLI, an implementation, whatever.

How would you feel if you posted some input corner cases, examples that 
could be confusing, or that are error prone, that you feel that are not 
that robust, or harder to than necessary ....

But everybody not only just dismisses everything you say out of hand, they:

  * Suggest you don't understand the product
  * Tell you to go away and read the manuals
  * Say that nobody else has that problem
  * Say that nobody would write that
  * Accuse you of spreading FUD
  * Call you ignorant...
  * ...stupid...
  * ...a fool...
  * Blatantly accuse you of lying ...

.... while at same time deny that there exists such a thing as a too-slow 
compiler - they will always find something that takes even longer, such 
that the compile speed is no longer dominant!

Plus they will say that it doesn't matter at all how big any program is, 
even 1GB or 10GB. Complete nonsense, and all lies.

Look, I've had enough. I don't know why it's taken me this long to 
realise how toxic this environment is.

A few posters such as WH and MS seem to manage to have a civilised 
discussion even when there is disagreement.

Most everyone else seems to be waging war on everything I say or do, and 
are making endless personal attacks and insinuations. I have to defend 
myself on multiple fronts. To all those: fuck the lot of you.

If someone needs to say something to me on a technical matter, they can 
raise an issue here: https://github.com/sal55/langs