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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Seriation Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 01:22:11 +0100 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <vj2os2$ch7p$1@paganini.bofh.team> References: <vj1pgp$5u55$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vj2fc0$3bbjk$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 00:22:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="410873"; posting-host="L/rT7uqiVZTQB03TSsYlcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; User-Agent: flnews/1.3.0pre21 (for GNU/Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:A8CB85pPmurX3hbJqFPS6JQVk2Q= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Ed25519-Sig: 78fcf1423f7795f591618b7a83b3db08cbf352717f7d2e12ce89d7d326797c15 da7210d6f179e7d2bed32d8f5b6ab66be5d5353e36e471fab189af7c10d98c09 X-Date: It's Sun Sep 11422 01:22:11 AM CET 1993, the September that never ends. X-Ed25519-Pub: c0ffee5a36e581eb10f60b2831b3cdb955d2e7ef680dd282a8d43ad8b84b357a Bytes: 2701 Lines: 46 Peter Fairbrother wrote: > Seriation is not a cipher, it is a technique used to build ciphers. Like > substitution and permutation, of which it is a form of the latter. > > It can be useful eg with digram-based ciphers like Playfair, where it > makes cryptanalysis based on the known frequency of occurrence of > digrams in the plaintext language much harder or impossible. Yes, thank you for the explanation! It could also be a nice replacement for SCOS, here in sci.crypt, combined with an A-Z encoder/decoder and a padding program, since SCOS was cracked and floating around on Bitmessage and code for seriation I have not seen yet elsewhere. As an example: $ echo "I wish the sci.crypt community a nice weekend!" | pad -p 64 \ | az -l 16 > message.txt $ cat message.txt UJCQXHGZXDGYSAHU WIGVSAHTWDGZSOGT XCHZXAHUSAGTWPGN WNHVWOGZXEHZSAGR SAGOWJGTWFCQXHGV WFGLWFGOWECRQKES VJFXUJFSVKEOVEER QJAQQAAQQAAQQAAQ $ seriation < message.txt UW JI CG QV XS HA GH ZT XW DD GG YZ SS AO HG UT XW CN HH ZV XW AO HG UZ SX AE GH TZ WS PA GG NR SW AF GG OL WW JF GG TO WW FE CC QR XQ HK GE VS VQ JJ FA XQ UQ JA FA SQ VQ KA EA OQ VQ EA EA RQ Maybe worth a little challenge, to have such a format for sci.crypt, with an AZ encoder, a pad and seriation program. :-) -- Regards Stefan P.S. I have figured out the encryption/decrption process for Doppelkastenschlüssel. :-) (Did not had enough coffee ... :-D)